The title of this recording is "name withheld 7 - Q12". It is described as: name withheld talks about being young and gay in 2012. It was recorded in Waikato, Aotearoa New Zealand on the 16th July 2012. The duration of the recording is 14 minutes, but this may not reflect the actual length of the event. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast name withheld talks about being young and gay in 2012. The content in the recording covers the 2010s decade. A brief summary of the recording is: This podcast episode, recorded on July 16, 2012, in Waikato, Aotearoa New Zealand, focuses on the experiences of a 20-year-old identifying as gay in the 2010s. The individual provides insight into their daily life, working at a supermarket and living in Hamilton. They express a liking for pop music, particularly Lady Gaga, and enjoy leisure time drinking coffee with friends, mostly gathering at locales like Starbucks, which is highlighted as a popular hangout for the gay community of Hamilton. The conversation also touches upon Shine nightclub, described as the only dedicated gay bar in Hamilton, which has extended its operation from one to multiple nights a week reflecting a growing acceptance and visibility of not just the gay community but also bisexual, transgender, and lesbian individuals. The guest mentions never attending the local youth group, suggesting it's not in line with their personal style. On the subject of gender identity, the speaker simply states they are a gay male and doesn't feel a compelling need to openly express that identity beyond being content and proud. They recall realizing their attraction to the same sex during their teenage years, specifically around 15 or 16, while attending an all-boys high school. However, despite the attraction to classmates, actions on those feelings were limited and private. Regarding coming out, the podcast guest remarks on a relatively smooth experience with friends, but some difficulty with family acceptance. The individual's father, in particular, is described as struggling with the concept, while their mother is supportive. The process of coming to terms with their orientation and sharing it with others took a few months after realization. The interviewee elaborates on the dynamics of dating within the gay community, pointing out the challenges of dating someone who is not open about their orientation, such as the reluctance of public displays of affection. This lack of openness was listed as one of the factors leading to a breakup. A highlight of the conversation is the discussion on virginity, where the interviewee presents a nuanced view, distinguishing between oral and anal sexual experiences and their differing levels of intimacy. They chuckle at the mention of a 'gay handshake', a phrase circulating on Twitter, signifying oral sex as a casual greeting in the gay community - a testament to the light-hearted way the community can discuss such topics. The interviewee also discusses the role of Twitter as a platform for expression and connectivity within the gay youth community in New Zealand, contrasting it with the permanence of posts on Facebook. Despite a changing and more accepting society, the guest acknowledges instances of public abuse. They share a story where their boyfriend retorted to a derogatory comment with humor, effectively diffusing the situation, emphasizing that confrontational encounters, though rare, are handled with quick wit. Lastly, the podcast delves into sexual health, clarifying some misconceptions about sexually transmitted infections (STIs) and reinforcing the practice of safe sex, which the guest follows strictly. The full transcription of the recording follows.  It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS].  The transcription begins:  Hello. How are you today? I'm good. Thanks. That is good. How old are you? I'm 20. OK. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself? I work in a supermarket. Live in Hamilton. That's it. Really? You like music? Yeah. I like pop music. I like Lady Gaga. Yeah. What do you like to do in your spare time? I just like to hang out with mates and drink coffee. Is that where's the usual [00:00:30] area That you like to hang out? Usually Starbucks with all the rest of the gas in Hamilton. So that's where they go. Starbucks? Is that the usual gay gay area? Yep. Is was there another area at any point? Not really. There's no real place for guys to hang out in Hamilton. Apart from the shine shine, they only gave her bar in Hamilton. Yep. That's it. Fun times. Do [00:01:00] you go there often? Usually. Um, every Saturday night when I go out, I'll stop on the show. See some friends. It used to be only a one night a week thing, wasn't it? It did, but it's open Thursdays, Fridays and Saturday nights. Now why do you think of that? I think it's become more popular. There's a lot more open gay in Hamilton and a lot more, um, by and transgender lesbians and all that as well. And there's also a lot of straight people that hang out [00:01:30] there too, which is pretty fun. Hamilton has become more accepting, I think. Finally. Yeah. So, um, how about the Do you go to the youth group here Often? I have never been to the youth group, but I've heard about it. It's not really my style of things, but I have a few friends that go to it. Not your scene. Not really, No. So, um, what's your gender identity? My gender identity? Well, I'm a gay male. [00:02:00] Gay male. How do you express yourself? I don't feel the need to express myself. Really? So it's casually just It's just who I am. I'm gay. I'm proud. I'm happy, right? Oh, so, um, when did you first realise that you were gay? Um, probably around, like, 15. 16. Sort of when I sort of started to notice I was attracted to guys. Yeah. So, [00:02:30] in high school, Yeah, in high school, Pretty much. Yeah. And an all boys school in high school. That probably puts a dot on things. Yeah. So, um, did you ever had to feel like you had to keep it a secret for everybody? Not really. No, I wasn't as open as I am now, But I wasn't, like, fully closeted, like my friends, you and family. So, yeah, I've been out since I pretty much realised [00:03:00] that's it. Really? Did you have, like, some sort of feelings in class or something? Not really, No. I was attracted to a few of my classmates, but didn't do anything about it, you know? Did you ever thought that they were or not? Really, just They were classmates, and that was it, Really? Right. So, um, so did you ever thought that you had to keep like, [00:03:30] Oh, wow, this is different or something like that. Did you feel like it was a little bit different than usual? Or a little bit at high school? But once I left high school, not at all. It was like, Oh, OK. I'm normal. Yeah, pretty much so. Um what? How did people react when you first told them? Um, my dad doesn't like that I'm gay. He still doesn't. But [00:04:00] that's just who he is, I guess. Is he more open to the idea now? Since it's been a few years since he's processed it. Yeah, he is. He is a bit more, but he doesn't talk about it. Not at all. It's like the, um, taboo taboo. Pretty much taboo subject. Yeah, my mom's all good with it. She's happy. And my friends are my friends, so, yeah. Um, So, um, how long did it take for you? Before [00:04:30] you realised for you to come out around 16, I think. I mean, like, was it like, did it take, like, a few weeks before you're like, Oh, I'm not sure. Um, yeah, probably. Like a couple of months after I started realising I liked guys and then sort of accepting the fact and all that and sort of telling everyone so, Yeah, there's generally a bit of a process before realising and accepting. [00:05:00] Yeah. How long was that process for you? I'm not really sure. Yes. Work out one. It wasn't one of those. Or was it was it? One day I was like, Oh, I have a erection over that guy in this class. It could have been I can't really remember. It was just one of those situations. Like Oh, OK. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah. OK, so how about what's your relationships, Like [00:05:30] my relationships? Um, I've been in a few relationships. Um, would you like to explain your current? No, not like to my current relationship veto on the current relationship. So, um, you get a lot of support when you came out? Yeah. My friends really supported me. My family? Not as much. [00:06:00] Oh, straight away. At least not straight away. They did eventually. How about your distant family members? I didn't see my distance. Family members very often. So do they know They do. And they seem to be all right with it. I've introduced him to to one of my boyfriends before. Mm. So it's just all happy family almost most of the time. Happy family here. Did you ever had to, like, practise on your coming [00:06:30] coming out to, like any animals or anything like that? No, I just sort of thought it through my head and then said it. So do you have any pets? I used to have a dog, but she died like, two months ago. It was really sad. Try to check on the dog death. Yeah, I've actually found out that some people actually like to come out to their animals before, um, before [00:07:00] telling people, that's kind of weird. I don't Wouldn't really talk to my pets. Like in that sort of way apart from Oh, you're so cut the F. I have to tell you this I'm gay. Well, right, right. Well, the grandparents will think right. Well, will my kit in the sink. You're no owner of mine. So you're not like [00:07:30] that? Not at all. No. Yeah. So, um, you being out in Had you been out ever affected your relationship or how you realised you affected your relationships? In the past, I've dated a few guys who weren't out, and that was a really weird experience because he didn't like to hold hands or kiss in public, which I'd like to do [00:08:00] so. That was kind of a bit different. It was always, like a certain awkward situation, one after another, pretty much especially when we went out for dinner or to a movie or something. Yeah, which in the movies, everything goes dark, then everything's fine until just unless an usher walk past or something like that? Yeah, Pretty much. It was. Yeah, a lot of awkward moments sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever? [00:08:30] Was it the reason was that one of the reasons why you broke up with that certain person or Yeah, it was one of the major reasons that upset you a little bit. I did a bit, but there was other reasons to OK, Another personal question. What? Um, what is your definition of virginity? Virginity? Virginity? Um, I'd say there's different levels [00:09:00] of virginity for me. There was, like, oral and then anal virginity. And that's I think it do. Um, do do they have the same meaning to you? Well, not meaning, but same effect of those two. Virginity. I think they're both different. Like an is sort of really intimate. And you that with someone [00:09:30] you love, whereas by jobs. Not so much. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's very open. And pretty much like a gay handshake. I've never heard that before. I heard it on Twitter yesterday, so I thought I had to bring that up. So this is what gay handshakes are. It's got something to do with twitter and blowjobs. Pretty much. Uh, I should not tweet that [00:10:00] I tweeted like, 10 times yesterday. You 10 times I saw it and retweeted a lot. Everyone seemed to be in agreeance. Is it like, did they actually trend in New Zealand? That or it might have. It was pretty popular. The trend of the gay handshake of blow jobs. Just talking about Twitter. I found Twitter to be, like a really, really great place for, um, gay youth in New Zealand. Because there are a lot of people on there that tweet and socialise. [00:10:30] It's a very good way to express themselves in a way where the only thing people can do is just say stuff. And when they actually do, like, posts or anything, it's not like Facebook. Yeah, where it's easy to look at your past. Well, it is easy to look at your past, but the only thing you can show is your statuses and blah, blah, blah, blah How you express yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um how do you meet [00:11:00] other people? How do I meet other people? Um usually through friends like and parties and all that, like, in town, and went out drinking with friends. You meet new people. Try not to break into the dance. New York? Not at all. So, um, have you ever received any abusive behaviour from [00:11:30] general public family members, Friends, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah? Um, not really. I've had a few people yell stuff at me and my boyfriend when we were walking down the street. But he usually deals with that by yelling something back at them, and that's very, very funny. And they run away. Oh, please, please elaborate. Um, Well, we were walking in the mall one day and some guy yelled out Homos. So then my boyfriend turned [00:12:00] around and yelled out a lot of abusive things, which I should not say. Go ahead. Um, he called him a fucking retard and a whole lot of other things. Is there any, um, any point where I was like, Oh, would you like to, um, would you like to flip your cock out so I can suck it for you? No, I know. I know a few people who do just, um, just [00:12:30] shouting flirtations back to them, and they usually run and they usually run away. That would be very funny to say you should try it. I will. One day. Brilliant. So, um so is there in Hamilton? There's this reputation of chlamydia going around. I think it's completely untrue. Why is that? I've never had chlamydia, and neither has any. I know. [00:13:00] I think it was just like a rumour. And it's probably more to of the university and those study girls, I'd say I'm not very well. I know a few things about comedy. I'm not very up to date, but I know a few things, but I'm not. But the details of it I'm not very sure, is it. Um, I'm sure that once you have chlamydia, you can't get rid of unless you've found out about it very soon. [00:13:30] I have no idea. I think it burns when you pee. I think, um I know, I know that, um, what happens is that if you have chlamydia, it actually closes up the, um the tubes, like from from your testicles to your Penis and the ovaries as well. So it's painful as it probably is, so that affects your your sex life anyway. But I think that's, um you get it's a permanent thing, right? I don't know. I've [00:14:00] never had it. Never want to have you ever had U DS Never always save sex. Always use condoms. Good bye. OK, that is the end of the interview. Would you like to say anything else? No, thanks. Thanks for interviewing me. It was awesome Fun, was it? It was ok. Not a problem. Thank you. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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