The title of this recording is "Lloyd - Q12". It was recorded in Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand on the 10th February 2012. The duration of the recording is 15 minutes, but this may not reflect the actual length of the event. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast Lloyd talks about being young and gay in 2012. The content in the recording covers the 2010s decade. A brief summary of the recording is: In the podcast titled "Lloyd - Q12," recorded in Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, the discourse revolves around the personal experiences and candid thoughts of a young individual who identifies as gay in the year 2012. The podcast provides a snapshot of the evolving landscape for LGBTQ+ communities within the region during the 2010s and explores various aspects of life as narrated by the individual named Lloyd. Currently a student pursuing a double degree in computing and business without employment, this person holds a deep interest in computers and technology. Born outside of Hawke's Bay, they express relief at not being raised there. Lloyd traces the realization of their sexuality back to the age of 11, sharing that the defining moment was viewing topless boys, which brought forth an innate attraction. Addressing the challenges of their journey, Lloyd discusses the significance of keeping their sexual orientation hidden due to concerns about bullying at school, unsure family reactions, and negative commentary from certain relatives. Eventually, Lloyd chose to come out by introducing a boyfriend to their parents, which marked a pivotal step in the path toward openness about their sexuality. While the individual's mother responded by emphasizing the importance of safety, Lloyd's father's potential reaction was a source of anxiety. Nevertheless, the family overall seemed to prioritize Lloyd's wellbeing over their sexuality, although responses were ambiguous. The support system for Lloyd is comprised of their partner, certain family members, and an enthusiastic aunt who immersed themselves in LGBTQ+ cinema. Embroiled in a society lacking a tangible support network or visible gay community, Jason, Lloyd's boyfriend, found one unrecognized group situated in a back alley. Despite the scarcity of such groups, Lloyd alludes to an undercurrent of closeted individuals within the area. Regarding past relationships, Lloyd indicates their current partner as their first significant one. Challenges also arise from external sources; Jason's parents initially held strong prejudices, and both faced negative repercussions, such as gossip and harassment, which included eggs being thrown at Jason's car. These experiences did not significantly dampen Lloyd's outlook due to a focus on their relationship and future plans. Unfortunately, the prejudice wasn't limited to strangers. Close family members used Lloyd's sexual orientation as a tool for insult during heated moments. In the realms of friendships and further connections, Lloyd relies on their partner's endeavors on social and dating platforms, humorously implying potential jealousy while expanding their circle. In response to hostility rooted in homophobia, Lloyd maintains psychological resilience. Travel with Jason serves as a form of respite from their unsupportive environment, which they candidly liken to escaping a "dump." Reflections on the regional LGBTQ+ community reveal it to be fragmented and nearly nonexistent in terms of organization or visibility. Facing the complications of a society that still silently entertains homophobia, Lloyd encourages those closeted to publicly embrace their identity. This advocacy for visibility denotes an aspiration for solidarity against prevailing heteronormative attitudes. Reflecting on their own experiences, Lloyd notes the stark contrast between the more accepting environment of Wellington and the close-mindedness encountered in their locale. Concluding the interview, Lloyd touches upon the idea of creating a support group but hesitates, aligning more with an individualistic approach. With no additional comments or pressing queries, the interview draws to a close. The full transcription of the recording follows.  It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS].  The transcription begins:  I'm here with Lloyd. How are you today? I'm good. Thank you. That is good. So I can get a general idea about you. Can you tell me about yourself? Um, I'm currently studying at EIT in Hawke's Bay. I'm doing a double degree in computing and business. Uh, I'm just being a student at the moment, not doing much. I don't have a job. And what are your interests? Uh, computers, technology? Um, that's pretty [00:00:30] much it. Are you Are you born and raised in Hawkes Bay? No, thank God. I was born in the Wellington region and Yeah, OK, um how old? How old are you? 20. Turning 21 this year. What gender do you identify with male? What culture do you identify with your plan? And what is your sexuality? Gay. Ok, [00:01:00] when did you realise that you were gay? When I saw when I was 11 and I saw a topless boys. Uh, how do you, um how How did you realise already out there, haven't I? Yeah, but can you get a bit more in depth about it? Um well, I can't remember when exactly it was it was around that time, but I remember, like in the training room, So I quite like the bodies. I don't know. They just look right. Like proportioned, [00:01:30] properly proportioned. Did you feel a bit? Hey, wait a minute. This is not normal in a way or something like that. Um, no, I don't think I thought it was normal. I liked it. I liked the whole thing. I could never understand girls like their whole mental thing. And I could never understand having a relationship with one. Yeah. Did you feel that you had to keep your sexuality a secret? Yeah, [00:02:00] because because what happened at school? Like bullies and stuff. And I didn't know how my parents would react. And also, um, a few aunties and stuff always said negative things about it. Did people find out at school? No. Never. They always assumed, though. Ok, um, have you came out of the closet? Yes. How did you come out of the closet? [00:02:30] Um, I told my parents that I was having someone over and there was a boy, and then I was having a relationship with him. Yeah. How did they react? Well, I actually told my mom first, but, um, they were fine. about it. Mom bought some lo and condoms. Well, that's a safety way of doing it. Um, I? I told Mom first six. I didn't know how Dad was going to react. I thought Mum would react [00:03:00] better. My sister, she walked in. I remember, and she said she knew it all along. She walked in and say, Huh, I knew it was later on. Later on, she said that, but she did walk in at some point. I can't remember. I think it's after I told Mum Mum might have told my sister. Oh, do you think she, um, came in just so she can actually try to catch you out, [00:03:30] But, um, I don't know. Possibly. You know how sisters are? Yeah. Sisters are doing it for themselves. Um, how did you feel when, um, about the reactions or about you coming out? Um oh, OK. But they were I couldn't quite gauge how they felt, though, how they reacted or it was just like General. It's like they didn't really care at all. I [00:04:00] don't Yeah, that's what I felt. So you think that they don't care about your sexuality? They only care about yourself. Yeah, probably Yeah, I don't It's hard to tell. My parents think so. Um, did you have any support? Um, my boyfriend, um, sort of my parents and extended family. Some of them were like my aunt. One of my aunties was too supportive. In what way? Um, well, she [00:04:30] rented all these gay movies, right? What? What do they call them? No, um, kind of gay genre movie sort of thing. Yeah. Not like actual, like movies. Not like pornos or anything? No, not like actual problems. That was kind of a gay thing to it. Is it like, um, where the world is mine or seven? Going on to [00:05:00] 17 or something like that? Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Um, did you have, like, were there any organisations that you wanted to go to down there, or are there actually any organisations? I don't know. Jason found one. My boyfriend, like in a back alley. Not really an organisation, something else. But I don't think there is anything there. I was meeting more of like youth groups or something like that, but there isn't really anything like Oh, there [00:05:30] are a few groups that they're so hard to find. Just not in the back alley. Well, I don't know where they are. They big flashing lights or something? Like a flag? Yeah, something like that. Hey, we're gay. We're queer, and we're always here. Yeah, the gay scene around there is nothing. Ok, um, before your current boyfriend, have you been in a relationship? [00:06:00] No, Um, has you coming out or, um, people's reactions affected your relationship with your boyfriend? Sort of. His parents originally were really negative about it and were trying to keep him away and right for saying that I was like a paedophile and other things and thought I was a horrible person. I don't think that anymore. And [00:06:30] people like I wasn't really our friend. Like, um, this guy was telling spreading rumours about Jason around the skull and and his parents were really negative and banned us from going over there to, um, your place or the school has to this guy's place. They got a trespass all both on me and my boyfriend. Um, I don't know if there's anything else. [00:07:00] Oh, people chucking eggs at Jason's car. Oh, that's not really to do with the race relationship. What sort of us, But it can put stress and stuff like that. Um, how do you meet other people Through Jason, who usually goes on, like, dating and friend sites and gay sites just to have the extra person? I don't know, Uh, [00:07:30] the casual threesome Or just find someone better than me. Probably as he shakes his head in the back room of the corner. Yes. OK, um, I probably think this is probably gonna be the obvious question to say no to, um, Are you a virgin? No. Um, have you experienced or [00:08:00] gotten any abuse of behaviour because of your sexuality or gender? Gender, gender identity? Um, yeah. I can say Jason's parents and sometimes my brother and sister, when they get angry, would always use it against me or say something horrible about it. Do you think they were actually really meaning it, or were they just joking around? Um, I think I don't know. Sometimes they say [00:08:30] in such a way that I think they really mean it. My brother and sister are horrible. I don't like them apart from your family members and Jason's family members. Do you have, um are there any other abuse that happen? Yeah, People calling stuff out. Um, these people at E RT were talking about me saying all this bad stuff and oh, yeah, there's been negative stuff and people chucking [00:09:00] eggs at Jason's car and, yeah, writing things in books about us. So with all these things, all these negative things happen. Do you actually do anything to actually keep your mind set so you don't get affected by or do you actually do get affected by this effort? Not really. No. But, um, if you did got affected, do you actually have [00:09:30] something to do that could keep get your mind out of it or something like that? Um, thinking about Jason. Our relationship? Yeah, uh, in our future, Um, I don't know what else but two. Yeah. Um what else is there? Do you like [00:10:00] to do a lot of travelling to Auckland with Jason, Don't you? Yes. That's your like your little escape from the scene down there. I can't really say scene, but call it a dump. Escape from the dump. Escape from the dump. It's like a little mission. Impossible. Sort of get away from there because there's nothing happens. There is. Is that because of the location or the people around there, A [00:10:30] bit of a a bit of B. The only thing you can say really is this, but yeah, um, I could say that anyone going to Hastings should avoid it. You the same. Yeah. Um, do you feel that these abuses all the abuse around there is actually deliberately aimed at you [00:11:00] or, um, yes or no? Do you think it could also be just, um, other people who are gay as well? I don't know. It's hard to know about how things I think there's probably a lot of closet gaze. And, yeah, there's not really any sort of community or scene down there. We're not really big at at all. [00:11:30] Do um, for the closet gaze. Do you think they should come out of the closet? Yeah. You have a big army, Big army against the streets. Do you have a message for those closet gates? Get out of the closet. I don't know that there's a lot of support nationally. I don't There's not a lot of support in Hastings. That's probably half the reason that everyone's really [00:12:00] close minded and backwards. Like when a strange move to Hastings, it was really like the whole sort of community was really fractured up in Hastings and I went coming from Wellington, where it's a lot more open. There's a lot more gay people and going to Hastings and where they're really close minded and unaccepted. Do you prefer Hastings to Wellington Wellington or a Auckland? Sure. Oh, [00:12:30] of course. You haven't actually lived in here in Auckland. But I haven't really lived in Wellington either. I just lived close to Wellington. Do you go to Wellington often? Not anymore. But like when I was living there, we'd go nearly every day. That confused me a bit. I live out of Wellington slightly like in like an hour away, but still near Wellington. I don't know. However you want to say it the [00:13:00] technical term word. Ok, um, is there a If you could average the gay community average the numbers of the gay community in Hastings? How big do you think it will be? Four people, The fewer people I know, like, I don't know, probably under 12 people that I know [00:13:30] not. Yeah, there. There's probably a lot of people, but there's no real community, so there's not a lot of communication between gay people only. Probably online and stuff. Do you think the gay community for Hastings is actually connected with other places, like maybe a master or I think a little bit. Yeah. Maybe even like New Plymouth. New Plymouth is, like only, like, an hour's drive or something like that. Right [00:14:00] around a little bit longer than that. But yeah, it's not that long. Yeah. Have you ever thought of making Probably creating your own group? No. I don't know. Not really my thing. Making a supportive group? I don't know. Sort of a loner person. Yeah, I just hang out with Jason. Ok, um, that's practically the end of the interview. Do you have any last [00:14:30] comments or would you like me to ask you a question that you would like to answer? How long is it so? Oh, it's over 40 minutes. Yeah. Um, no, I think that's all. OK, well, thank you for the interview. Thank you. And have a lovely day. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. The tags are seperated by a semi-colon: 2010s ; Aotearoa New Zealand ; Auckland ; Hastings ; Job ; Kapiti Coast District ; Masterton ; People ; Stuff ; The Closet ; Wellington ; Wellington region ; Youth ; abuse ; bullying ; cafe ; closet ; coming out ; communication ; community ; condoms ; connect ; culture ; escape ; face ; faith ; family ; friends ; fun ; future ; gay ; gender ; gender identity ; homophobia ; hope ; identity ; movies ; normal ; other ; pants ; parents ; queer ; race ; safety ; scene ; school ; sexuality ; shame ; success ; support ; technology ; threesome ; time ; training ; wind ; work. The original recording can be heard at this website https://www.pridenz.com/q12_lloyd.html. The master recording is also archived at the Alexander Turnbull Library in Wellington, New Zealand.  For more details visit their website https://tiaki.natlib.govt.nz/#details=ecatalogue.1089211. 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