The title of this recording is "Laurie - Q12". It is described as: Laurie talks about being young and gay in 2012. It was recorded in Masterton, Wairarapa on the 7th September 2012. The duration of the recording is 14 minutes, but this may not reflect the actual length of the event. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast Laurie talks about being young and gay in 2012. The content in the recording covers the 2010s decade. A brief summary of the recording is: In the podcast "Laurie - Q12", recorded in Masterton, Wairarapa on 7th September 2012, the anonymous speaker shared personal experiences about navigating life as a young gay individual during the 2010s. The conversation spanned various aspects of the speaker's life, hobbies, family, and the journey toward self-acceptance and openness about their sexuality. The speaker, a fan of the outdoors, enjoys a range of activities like rock climbing, sailing, hunting, and fishing as well as engaging in technology-related pursuits such as computer repair and game testing. Born in Palmerston North, roughly two and a half hours from their current residence in Masterton, they have lived in the Wairarapa region for around 17 years. Identifying as male in terms of both sex and gender identity, and conveying a masculine gender expression, the speaker discussed their realization of being gay around age 15, highlighted by developing crushes on boys during school years. Disclosing one's sexuality, particularly within familial contexts, can be challenging, as narrated by the speaker. Initially keeping their sexual orientation a secret, the process of opening up began with confiding in a close friend and later, informing their mother via a text message followed by a face-to-face conversation. Thankfully, the speaker's mother was supportive and not surprised, having never pressed the individual about relationship statuses aside from a one-off question about having a girlfriend. The candid dialogue touched upon the difficulty in coming out to other family members due to perceived homophobic attitudes, especially from an older sister. The speaker expressed a feeling of inevitability that they would need to confront this challenge, driven in part by the statistical probability that others in their large family might also be gay. The discussion also dipped into the speaker's community engagement and the sometimes subtle interactions with the gay community in Masterton, a process that was still very much unfolding for them. The speaker acknowledged the town's limited acceptance for gay individuals, correlating it with a prevalent "tough" social demeanor and also underscored the significant support provided by their mother across various aspects of life. Even in the face of these societal hurdles, the speaker had not experienced any abuse due to their sexuality. However, there was an underlying sense of caution, perhaps informed by an awareness of the potential challenges and discriminations faced by LGBTQ+ community members. When it came to relationships, the speaker had not been in one yet, attributing it to not having found the right person and a need to engage more with the gay community. The intended future included a move, potentially to Palmerston North, where a more prominent community presence might facilitate finding a partner and fostering relationships. In the broader scope of their existence in Masterton, the speaker shared feelings of boredom with the town, with limited recreational and social activities available. Despite this, there was a clear ambition to find an enjoyable career and focus on future aspirations. The full transcription of the recording follows. It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS]. The transcription begins: Hello. How are you today? I'm good. So what are you into? All kinds of things. Anything to do with the outdoors? You're really into your outdoors. Yes, I am. What's your favourite thing to do? Outdoors? Um, rock climbing in sailing, indoor or outdoor? Both. Both. What else do you like to out the door and go out hunting? Yeah. You [00:00:30] better? Yeah. I quite like my hunting, fishing, camping, and yeah, just hanging out with people. So, um, what do you So you're from Yes. Where were you born? Palmerston North. Palmerston North. So a couple of hours away. An hour away? Yeah, About 2. 5 ish. Yeah. So how [00:01:00] long have you lived in? Well, um, about 17 years. 17. 5, give or take. Yeah, give or take. Yeah. So what do you like to do for hobbies? Um, fixed computers pulled them apart, put them back together. Um, game [00:01:30] testing. And you like building as well? Yeah. And building. Um and yeah. So, uh, what is your sex male? What is your gender identity? Male. Good. You get that question, right? Um, what is your culture identity? This is, um, [00:02:00] New Zealand. European. And what is your sexuality and what? What is your expression? Masculine, feminine or any other type? I don't know. Yeah, Mascular dudes. So, um, when did you realise that you were [00:02:30] gay? About 15? Yeah. Yeah. What happened? Well, I started to get crush on boys. Was it in the class thing? Yeah, and it's pretty hard to avoid the locker roof. Was it noticeable? Yeah. No, no. Did you get to it yourself, Do you think? Did you get a thought where [00:03:00] you had to keep a secret? I kept it a secret for quite a while. It was only about two years ago. I told one of my best mates. Yeah, that's good. So you're out of the closet then? Half and half, depending on who it is. Yeah, like, Well, I've still got the till the rest of my family. [00:03:30] Who have you told so far? Just my mum. How did that go? Quite good. Hm? What happened? Oh, at first I texted her, saying I needed to talk to her, and then she came home. We both sat down and I told her how was her reaction? Oh, she [00:04:00] wasn't surprised, you know? Yeah. I had. I had a feeling she probably knew. I mean, not bringing you home girls or anything. Yeah. You ever seen you with another guy? No, no, no. How did you like, Has she actually? Has she ever asked you a question? Like So, Do you have a boyfriend or do you have a girlfriend or had any of those hints [00:04:30] I did have? Do you have a girlfriend? Hint. I just said no. And that was kind of the only question she ever asked. Yeah. How about what happened when you first told your friend? Oh, he just treated me like normal. So because he is one of my best mates, So Yeah. So why haven't you told [00:05:00] the other parts of your family? Well, because I know my older sister. Uh, yeah, I think they have something against gas or something, So yeah, I'll get there eventually. That's, like, homophobic. Well, yeah, I'll get there eventually. What do you think [00:05:30] their reaction would be if you told them? Uh, probably shocked. Why is that? Um I don't know. Probably because they always expect me to get a girlfriend because no one else in the family is gay. so yeah. Yeah, but no one else apart from me. They know how many. They have a lot of kids, [00:06:00] don't they? Yeah. About off about five five kids between them. And, um, in theory, one in 10 people are gay. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, eight people living in that household? Yeah. Eight people. So So, what's Mason like for you? Uh, it's [00:06:30] very boring. I've seen everything done everything. And yeah, apart from when you notice houses. Um, yeah. Um, yeah. What I do to keep busy is usually go for late night walks and don't come home until, what, 34 in the morning. So you don't really notice anything at night? No. Well, it's hard to notice things if you don't have a light with you, [00:07:00] So Yeah. So, um, are you involved with the gay community in? I'm slowly getting there. It's a new door for you, isn't it? Yes. Have you socialised with any of the gay community? Um, one or 21 or two? Yes. Like often do you, like, hang out? Or I'll text [00:07:30] them or they text me or whatever, but nothing really. Just hang out. Friends. This is more like acquaintances. of It's very subtle, isn't it? Yes, it is. Is an accepting for gay people? Probably not. I'd say your personal opinion, my personal opinion. Why is that? [00:08:00] Well, you can tell how everyone acts around other people, like acting all tough and that so Yeah, that's how I can tell. So you have a lot of support from your mother with your sexuality? Well, with a lot of things, in fact, yeah. Oh, she supports me with everything I do. So, yeah. Were [00:08:30] you scared when you were telling her? Yeah. I was quite scared of what her reaction was gonna be, but yeah. Finally got over it. Yeah. Did she expect anything from you after you coming out? No, not really. She treated me the same. Yeah, she wasn't going to expect. Like, you start wearing makeup coming out of your room with a dress on. No. Bringing boys home. They are part she'll [00:09:00] probably expect. Yeah, you can't. It's inedible, so yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you like living in? No, no, it's a It's a very rural area, isn't it? Yeah. More suburban rural areas. Yes. Just been living here most of my life. Yeah. [00:09:30] Yeah, But, um have you been in a relationship before? No. Really? Yeah. Why is that? I'm getting there. Yeah. Is there actually particular reason? No, not really. You just haven't met the right one or you haven't actually haven't met the right one? Yeah. Start socialising with the community. You got to start socialising more. [00:10:00] Are you planning on moving out from a Hopefully, Yes, Me too. Probably Palmerston North. There's a bit of a community there. You can probably find someone there. Yeah. So, um, how do you meet other people in the community? Uh, online? Yeah. Um, tagged Facebook. I don't know. Free. I don't free. [00:10:30] Have you ever used, like, um, NZD, which is New Zealand? Um NZ dating, I think. N dating dot com or manhunt? No, no, no, no. None of those just tagged in Facebook. In Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. So you you always [00:11:00] use that a lot? Yeah. Nothing else to use. No. Nothing else to use. All the other sites. Have what? Predators. Well, I think all sites have predators, so you just need to know how to philtre the predators out. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So, um, what is your definition in virginity. Done. Done. Done. [00:11:30] Um, hard question to answer. Um, I honestly don't know what to say. It's your personal opinion, my personal opinion. Well, what I tell my niece she's not allowed to have sex until what? Until I'm dead. Otherwise I'll beat him up. And how old is your niece? Six Told them young. Told [00:12:00] them old and young. So you think it's the first time someone has sex? Yeah, the easy way to answer it. Oh, that's very simple questions. So you haven't been out for long, haven't you? No. Probably a couple of weeks. So have you ever been abused because of your sexuality? No. No, not yet. Not yet. Yeah. [00:12:30] So, um, what is there to do around Mason? Um, nothing. Well, there's Tim and bowling. There's Yeah. You didn't even show me this. Oh, yeah. Um, there's Tim and bowling. There's the movies, and that's probably the only good things. Yeah. Do you know much about as in the [00:13:00] historical thing? No. Why is that? Because I just live here, not researchers, so Yeah, You don't You don't notice these things. Not much of a history person, are you? Those types of people that go out to have a lot of coffee at cafes. If you could afford it. If I really want to. I would, but I'd rather prefer iced coffee. Coffee? Yeah. [00:13:30] That's still coffee. Yeah, but it's like you like your coffee is hot. Yeah, but that's different. It's different. It's totally different. Oh, So what's your plans for the future? Um, find a career that I really enjoy. Goodness. Yeah. Well, [00:14:00] thank you for that interview. You're welcome. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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