The title of this recording is "Chicken Lil - Q12". It is described as: Chicken Lil talks about being young and gay in 2012. It was recorded in Manawatū, Manawatu, Aotearoa New Zealand on the 14th September 2012. The duration of the recording is 16 minutes, but this may not reflect the actual length of the event. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast Chicken Lil talks about being young and gay in 2012. The content in the recording covers the 2010s decade. A brief summary of the recording is: The podcast recording titled "Chicken Lil - Q12" features an individual discussing their life as a young gay person in 2012. The narrative weaves through various interconnecting themes, primarily revolving around their personal identity, sexuality, and the support systems that facilitate their self-expression. Recorded in Manawatū, Aotearoa New Zealand, the recording captures a candid and informal conversation that sheds light on the speaker's journey of self-discovery, hobbies, and relationships against the backdrop of the 2010s decade. The individual, who uses the pseudonym "Chicken Lil," introduces themself by talking about their passion for dance and an upcoming audition at the New Zealand School of Dance. They express enthusiasm for creative pursuits, despite claiming not to excel in them, including painting and drawing. They also enjoy acting, stage work, and social activities. They highlight the importance of friend groups or "families" in their life, which support them in various ways. A significant part of the discussion delves into the speaker's process of understanding and embracing their sexuality. It is mentioned that there wasn’t a specific turning point in realizing their attraction to other boys; instead, it was a gradual acknowledgment. The conversation moves to their personal disclosure, or coming out, which occurred without significant planning or a formal announcement, suggesting a certain degree of acceptance and comfort with their identity. The podcast touches upon the social aspect of the speaker's life, including the support received within the LGBTQI community. They mention a local support group named "Closet Space" and the importance of such spaces in fostering connections and comfort among peers. Additionally, the speaker mentions their work as a barista, which offers another social venue, while humorously critiquing a coffee they are provided during the recording session. Regarding the topic of relationships, Chicken Lil speaks vaguely about past experiences, indicating that some were explorative and others were more substantial. Throughout the discussion, the speaker maintains a carefree and humorous tone when discussing both the past and the present, highlighting the importance of fun and exploration in their life journey. The subject openly addresses misconceptions about gender identity and sexuality, clarifying the distinction between the two in a tongue-in-cheek manner. In relation to their expression of gender, they seem to reject strict labels, possibly indicating a fluidity or reluctance to be categorized in traditional terms. Chicken Lil discusses dealing with negativity, such as homophobia, and the importance of resilience and self-acceptance in the face of adversity. They emphasize that, despite occasional challenges, they focus on personal satisfaction and their own perspective, instead of dwelling on the negative views of others. In closing, the participant moves into a reflection on the influence of community and personal relationships upon their individual experience, mentioning that such connections might occur in various environments such as support groups, bars, cafes, or within art and creative spaces. The atmosphere remains upbeat as they relate to the audience with humor, casualness, and a sense of unguarded honesty. The full transcription of the recording follows.  It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS].  The transcription begins:  Hello. How are you today? I'm dandy. Yes, I saw what you did there. So who are you? I am, um, chicken little. And you're also number 40? Yeah. Yeah. I'm number 40 Interviewee. I think I've been doing this right. Am I doing it right? So can you tell us a little bit about yourself? I like to dance. I've been dancing [00:00:30] for yonks now, And, um, in a couple of weeks, I'm auditioning for New Zealand School of Dance Down in Wellington with an association with and stuff. Um, other than that. Fabulous. Fabulous. Yeah. Fabulous. I do see your families. And I was like, No, I only have one. But, you know, how many families do you have, exactly? Yeah. Yeah, I've got lots of families, my friend, families, many families. [00:01:00] Are you many, Many likes and hobbies? Um, I like I like boys. Um, my hobbies. Boys, boys. Yeah, but, um you know, um, I like sort of anything creative, like painting, drawing. I'm shit at both of those, But I like them and that sort of stuff, um, dancing, acting, stage work, anything, really, Just being social. I like Oh, sorry. I tapped your foot [00:01:30] you playing with me? Yeah. I even drink yet. I don't think you need to. Yeah. Um, yeah, but other than that, anything, really, As long as it's not too crazy. Not too crazy. Yeah, well, I say that, but then it's like, Oh, yeah, take off your shirt. Yeah, Well, funny story. This is actually a pop dome shirt. And I was like, you know, just occasionally, like moving [00:02:00] around as you do, and they started coming popped because it's actually really tight. Yeah. Yeah. True story. True story. So, um, what is your sex? I'm not sure that jokes. You're male. You're male. And you know what I mean by gender Identity. Gay? No, that's sexuality. Damn it. Um, male. Yes. OK, that's the gender you identify. [00:02:30] Obviously. How do you know I'm reading your mind right now? But I have to say it out loud. So the microphone Can you see it? Um, anyway, yeah, where was I? Um, all this mind fucking is fucking with my mind. That is [00:03:00] the general idea of mind perks. I keep kicking everybody. I'm sorry. It's very, um, in and around town. What is your culture? Identity. What? What culture do you identify with New Zealander help? How do you express yourself? You know, masculine feminine camp Twinkie. Any of those? Um I don't know. I'm just, like, No, [00:03:30] I'm just like, No, I mean, I guess you'd have to ask other people, but I don't know. I've got people here, I guess, sort of camping. Not all the time, but I would disagree. I will say arty and drama sort of Shakespeare. Do you like [00:04:00] to be or not to be? This is not the question since we're in the middle of an interview. So when did you realise that you were attracted to buy Yonks ago? I know that's a very vague answer, but it was like there wasn't really sort of a turning point, Like, that's why I say it wasn't really, like a certain point. It was just sort of like a you know, I realised Hey, Yeah. [00:04:30] Oh, my gosh. Coffees are coming anyway. We've got coffee. Awesome. Thank you very much. When did it actually really quickly? I don't think it was till, Uh, yeah, nine. Four years ago, four years ago. Um, when I was sort of, like, [00:05:00] you know, sort of actually getting into the whole scene of them, and it was like, Yeah, I don't know, but it was sort of like a hey, wait a minute. I know what the nailed it. Oh, am I allowed to say? Yeah, well, I just said fuck before, So I don't know if there's some things I'm not allowed to say, but what, you're not [00:05:30] No, no, no. I've already done that. Um, What was that? So you never went through a denial period, didn't you? No, actually, um, I think that I don't know. I've heard of, like, a lot of people who have, like, sort of, like, gone through this period with that. Maybe not. But I've never actually sort of reached that point. I was just sort of like I was sort of [00:06:00] there's, like, five of us, so we expect a couple more, but, um 044 of us. Little red has a powerade over there. Um, but yeah, I don't know. There really wasn't a point where I was just like, Hey, you know what? I don't know. But so you never went through a period where you said I'm actually by, but trying to deny it in a way, But you're not At the same time, it was like you accept that you like boys. But [00:06:30] you're saying that you like girls. So something up like that. There was there was obviously times when I was like, you know, I don't wanna be, um But I always sort of knew that I was, And that would be so. There was never any doubt. I mean, of course, there are those ups and downs, but I look at the hair. My hair is kind of shit. That's why I wear a hat. Take off the hat. [00:07:00] You wear a lot of hat. That's the point. Recently, he had a haircut. That was shit. So bad haircut. I know. It's tragic. Tragic. Life changing. Yeah, pretty much. So. When did you come out of the closet? Um Well, are you? Yes, I am. I'm like, out and about, like, you know, just chilling wasn't very good [00:07:30] for you. No, There was all these lines and shit and talking trees. And I was like, Jesus, yeah. I was like, What are you doing with your horns and your fluff? Oh, God. That sounded like a real like kinky like. No, um, I'm not. I'm not. I'll be honest. Anyway, Um, but yeah. And then you come out of me estimating [00:08:00] three years ago. So you realise when you've done it? Four years ago and you came out three years ago. Yeah, it was pretty OK, thank you. As you. Who was the first person you told? Um, I honestly don't remember. Uh, I don't think it was sort of like a [00:08:30] sort of, um I think it was just like a he's screaming out. Yeah, it wasn't really like a they They just sat down with someone and say hm, it wasn't a confidential thing. Yeah, I was like, Mom, I'm gay or something like that. It wasn't my mum. Your friend Shelley. I'm gay. I don't know if you know someone. That's names. She I do. And I was just about to say a story about Shelley. Oh, go ahead. [00:09:00] She's so cute. Um, she came over like, oh, she was from Germany and she came over with, and she was, like, really blonde. And she was really pretty. And yeah, that was cute. So now I like the name Shelley. Even though it reminds me of Shell's I. I work with someone at Shelley. She's like a boss to me. She is a boss, like a boss, like a boss. But she is, Um, what's the next one? So you kind of had a big support system. People [00:09:30] supported you and your sexuality? Yep. Um, well, for the first, while there was, like, you know, the obvious blow down trodden. Yeah, yeah, but it's like I by that point, I was sort of, like, accepted it myself. So I was like, It's like, congratulations. Everyone else knows. What are you trying to prove? So it was, like a sort of get used to it sort of thing, [00:10:00] but to others, And then they did. And now it's sort of like, whatever. It's sort of like a small town, so everyone knows sort of everyone. So yeah, it's It's no big news anymore. Like every step you take is a trail behind you If we move you back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not. We're not. Who's that singer? It was like Rob someone. No, I'm glad you stopped me there, though, because I couldn't [00:10:30] remember the rest of the song. This is not karaoke, anyway. So? So where where were we? Um, So you've been in a few relationships before That smile, that cheeky smile. Oh, dear. Yeah. Would you like to tell us about some How many relationships have you too many Now, um, I've had a few long [00:11:00] ones, though, so it's all good. I guess it comes down a few. Yeah, It's like the first couple sort of discoveries. Sort of like, Who am I? What do I like? And then it's sort of like now you found yourself. So, like, now I know what I want. And now I know what I like Afraid to have some fun along the way Click over the heels, Yeah, Click the snap down the yellow brick road Snap, snap, snap three snaps. Messy. I'm gonna steal some sugar, [00:11:30] Some sugar. Yeah, but I'm not. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, what was the next question? How do you meet people in the LGBTI Q community in the LGBTI Q gay by transgender intersex Queer. 00, [00:12:00] I think she wants to speak for this one. No, not you. You. Oh, there's this really cool support group in. Yeah, and it's, um it's like a little. It's called closet space, and it's really cool. And if you're around here, totally check it out. Um, it's a great support sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. And And, um, don't don't shove your hand off his fast. [00:12:30] Hey, speak for yourself. Um huh. Um, Anyway, um, So I went to that a couple of times, and that was really cool. And I met a couple of few people through there. And then, um, you know, that was awesome. And then from the, uh, I got work on Wednesday nights, so I couldn't go anymore gutted. But I still sort of kept with [00:13:00] in touch with the people and the people that you know, new people. And then, yeah, if you know, if you're willing to get out there and do stuff, then there's always people to meet. It's just who you know, in a bar or a cafe. I am a barista. I'm doing my Brister training at the moment 101 times, but yeah, I'm totally like judging this coffee. I drink. I'm like [00:13:30] I'm judging you like the coffee beans. The burn? Yeah. Are they? Nah, they're pretty good. It's not as good as some of taste. Not as good as me. No. Yeah, I taste better. Like I just really like that. Yeah. Anyway, um, what is your definition of virginity? Virginity? Oh, wow. Every single. There's a random lady just sitting there like listening [00:14:00] to this interview. And I was like, Awkward, um, the limit. All three of these people have actually answered that question because they all, um I haven't really thought about that, I reckon. I think pen, pen penetrate, penetrate penetration. Yeah, penetrative sex is, [00:14:30] um, or it's just a lack of sexual act. I don't really count that. Making artists and stuff. I guess it's not a common track, but it's very nice. Um, going inside the concords there. Have you experienced or received any abuse or abusive behaviour because of your sex or gender identity or your sexuality to expand on that? No, [00:15:00] no. Um well, there's not really much to expand on it. Sort of like everyone sort of gets the same sort of stuff. That's why I sort of like having sort of like the gay people sort of as sport, because they they know what you're going through sort of abuse than anything else? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's more. I mean, it does vary from person to person, but as you do it and I mean, I'm I'm not the kind of person to like, dwell on the [00:15:30] bad And oh, it was me. This happened to be three years ago. It's a like, OK, cool. So what? That's what they think. This is what I think Sort of like it doesn't affect me, just sort of like at the end of the day, you're the only person who you have to impress. So I know it's because the cheer is just there and your legs next to the chair and it's like, Oh, yeah, it is. Life is hard. [00:16:00] No problem. Thanks for coming down the coffee. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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