The title of this recording is "Participants in Marriage Equality march". It is described as: Participants talk during the Marriage Equality march through the streets of central Wellington. It was recorded in Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand on the 29th August 2012. This is an interview with Brodie Packer, Courtney Phillips, Jan Logie, Kassie Hartendorp and Virginia Parker-Bowles. The interviewer is Jo Jackson / Grizz. Their names are spelt correctly, but may appear incorrectly spelt later in the document. The duration of the recording is 12 minutes. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast Jo Jackson talks to people taking part in the Marriage Equality march through the streets of central Wellington. A brief summary of the recording is: This podcast features interviewer Jo Jackson speaking with attendees of the Marriage Equality march through the streets of central Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, recorded on August 29, 2012. Participants voiced their support for the Marriage Equality Bill, highlighting the need for equal rights and emphasizing that allowing same-sex couples to marry is a step towards eliminating discrimination and homophobia. Interviewees expressed a variety of reasons for supporting the bill. One participant emphasized the desire to see non-heterosexual weddings being celebrated, considering them joyous occasions that should not be excluded from society. Another highlighted that recognizing marriage equality is an overdue action to cut out homophobia and to embrace fuller equality for queer individuals. Personal connections to the LGBTQ+ community were frequently mentioned as a motivator for support, with some interviewees knowing individuals whose lives would be profoundly affected by the legislation. Several cited the importance of moving forward as a nation and keeping pace with other countries that have already endorsed marriage equality. The sentiment that "love is love" resonated with participants who believe that all individuals should have the right to marry, regardless of sexual orientation. Progressing towards an inclusive society was a shared belief among those interviewed, with the hopeful outlook that New Zealand as a whole would eventually adopt more liberal views and accept marriage equality as social progress. The commitment was not just personal but also extended to those involved in campaigning for the bill, such as activists who have been working hard to organize support and lobby for the passage of the legislation. The optimism for the bill's success was counterbalanced by the acknowledgment that public opinion was divided, and that not everyone might embrace the changes immediately. To conclude, the interviews captured at the march revealed a community united by the desire for equality and recognition of the value of love, hoping to see legislative changes reflect these principles. Participants were generally confident that social progress would lead to the passing of the bill, despite acknowledging the existence of opposing viewpoints within the wider society. The full transcription of the recording follows.  It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS].  The transcription begins:  My name is Brodie Packer, and I'm very, very for the bill. It's just, you know, a basic human equal, right? Yeah. I'm all for the bill. I like I like the It's kind of silly that there's even a bill, like, it should just be like a human. You know, I want to go to my brother's wedding and my friend's wedding, and, um, brilliant gay weddings will be so much more extravagant than straight weddings, like, Come on, you're just cutting yourself off from a lot of cool parties if you don't. Not for the bill. Um, so you you know a lot of people that [00:00:30] will be affected by the bill in that case, the gays Excellent. Brilliant. Thank you very much. No problem. My name is Josh, and I think that it is an extremely necessary step to the future of properly cutting out homophobia. Hi, my name is Cassie, and I am in support of the bill because I think that is one really important step and gaining fuller quality for, um, queer people. Totally. Um, do you guys know lots of people that will be affected by the bill? Um, I think that I I like. [00:01:00] I do know people who their lives will open up a lot. Now that they're able to do this, it will make a big impact on their lives. Um, so I think that's really a really important job. Well, yeah. Definitely. Um, myself, um, pretty much most of my friends, um, the way to public, they'll be a because obviously, their opinions will have to shift. Cool. Thanks so much. Uh, I'm yeah, and I think it's fantastic. I'm Chris. I think it's great. Yeah. Why? Why do you Why do you guys [00:01:30] in support of it? Why are you guys in support of it? Even, um well, I'm a lesbian. And I guess it kind of just makes sense, like in terms of, um, not being discriminated against, uh, for something that is not wrong or not in your control in any way. And it just I know. I think it's just time. It's time for us to move forward. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I think it's just about time that we got on board as a country. Can I interview you? Yes. Um, can you tell me your name and what you think of the bill, [00:02:00] um, Harriet Or has And I think it's good. I think it's we, you know, we're moving forward in our cultural times, and I feel New Zealand needs to keep up with the other countries around the world who are doing the same thing. Totally. Um, so you think that, uh, being a a marriage equality is is an important um, yeah, I think that's the next step and the step of long rights that need to be fulfilled. Clear. Um, so, yeah. Are you Are you pleased with the turnout here? Do you think that's all? I'm really happy with the turnout. I was. [00:02:30] I'm so happy. And the weather is so nice. It's gonna be a good day. Do you, um, do you have confidence that the bill will go through? Yes. Complete confidence. Awesome. Thanks so much. I meet you and you Radio. Yeah. I meet you in the Oh, yeah. Yeah. He Helene grizelda or Joe or Annie or or a lot of, um, journalism. [00:03:00] And we're covering the rally. Oh, I'm I'm audio recording from my Yeah, so I know that you are, um, about to ask you a few questions. There we go. a bit more professional. OK, so, um, I'm here today because I think that, um, marriage, equality is something really important. And something that, um, we as a country should be, should be endorsing [00:03:30] and and and have, I guess I just I just think it's something really important. Yeah. And I'm here to show my support, mainly. Do you mind if I interview you? Yeah, sure. Uh, can you tell me your name and what you think of the bill? Um, Courtney Phillips and I don't agree with the bill. Does that make sense? I support this right. Support marriage. Equality? Yes. Why do you support it? Well, my parents used to own [00:04:00] a gay bar, and we have lots of gay friends, and they all supported as well. So kind of, Becky, our friends and their values. So you know a lot of people that will be affected by the bill? Yes. How do you think New Zealand the rest of New Zealand will react to the bill? To be honest, I'm not too not too well, I think, but I think it's a lack of knowledge, and they should be wired up on it a little bit more, and then hopefully they'll be on our side. Do you think the bill will pass? [00:04:30] I've got no idea, to be honest. Yeah. Thanks so much. Um, my name's Ariel, and I think it's awesome. I think it needs to be legal, Trent. And why do you support the bill? Well, love is love. Really? Like, Why can't people have rights? Why can't they do it just because they love the same sex? So I see no reason to segregate individuality in any other subject. How do you think [00:05:00] the rest of New Zealand will react to this bill? Um, I think New Zealand is a pretty good country. I think it's just the government. To be honest, it's the people that run it. The people in it are good. It's the people that run it. Not so good. Um, and do you think that they will pass? I hope so. I hope so. Thanks so much. Oh, [00:05:30] just what's all this? Hey, do you mind if I interview you? Cool. Um, could I get you to tell me your names and what you think about the bill? Oh, I'm Virgen and, um, I'm a lesbian, so I'm in total support of the bill, and I can't wait till it comes through. Hey. Hi. I'm Alison, and I'm Of course I'm in support of the bill. Thanks so much. Right. Me? [00:06:00] Ok, has got to go. Wow. Has got to go. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Great. And we And what do you think of the bill? Uh, my name's Sarah Havis. And [00:06:30] I'm really proud to support a bill that will, uh, give equal rights to love of equal value. I think it's really important, and I'm confident that it will pass. Thanks so much. Down. One, 82468 2468. [00:07:00] Excuse me. Can I interview you? Sure. Can you tell me your name and what you think of the marriage equality Bill? Bob and I support it. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Why is that? Uh, well, I think, um, gay people have had a pretty hard time. Uh, you know, over a long time. And I don't see why they shouldn't be able to get married like everybody else. I think a lot of people these days [00:07:30] don't get married anyway. I mean, a lot of de facto relationships and things. Things like that So, um, yeah, I think that they should be able to get married if they want to get married. Yeah. Do you think the rest of New Zealand will have a similar opinion to you? Well, the opinions are certainly divided, so I really don't know about that. So that's going to be interesting to find out. Do you think the bill will pass? I think it probably will. I think more and more people are getting more liberal and being more reasonable about these things. And it's social progress. Really? Yeah. Thanks so much. [00:08:00] Hey, uh, do you mind if I interview you? Sure. Um, can you tell me your name and whether you're in support of the bill or not? My name is Tracy. I'm absolutely in support of it. Cool. Um, why is that? Well, why not? I haven't found one valid reason why they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Show me one. and do you think the rest of New Zealand will have the same view as you? Oh, no, they won't. Of course they won't. That's why we're out. They're out protesting. But I think that a lot of people do I don't know Some people have different reasons why they do [00:08:30] and why they don't. But I don't think everyone will have to say about it. But they should have. And, um do you think the bill will pass? I think it will. I think it will it Will we go one more time? Come out? I don't know. When The quiz on my chair, My number? Oh, I'm not. [00:09:00] I Yeah. Now the equal. Do you mind if I interview you? Can you tell me your name and whether you're in support of the bell [00:09:30] or not? I'm Jim, and I am that It's about time that everyone got a quality. You know, it doesn't matter who you're in love with. If you want to be with them, why shouldn't you be allowed to be? And do you think the rest of New Zealand will have the same view as you hope so Do you think the bill will pass? I think it probably will. It's about time. I mean, it seems to be moving that way that the people, you know, they are kind of getting the idea that, you know, the old fashioned views [00:10:00] are well, yeah, they're old fashioned. now that they don't have, there's no reason for them to not be equal marriage now. Thank you so much in here. May I interview you? Of course. You. Excellent. Um, can you tell me whether you're in support of the bill or not in support of the bill? It's well over. Why? Why are you in one? Because I think the message that it sends to, um our [00:10:30] communities and to me that actually my life is equal. It's about that. Um do you think the rest of New Zealand will agree with you? I feel like the majority does. Listen to that. I was involved in the early stages of the civil Union discussions was that eight years ago and there was just no public acceptance for marriage at all. So that's what we had to go for. Whereas now society has moved on, and this is absolutely an option and is absolutely [00:11:00] sure thanks so much. 2468, 82468. Marriage is a civil right? What? Marriage is a civil right? What is right. [00:11:30] And you Can you tell me your names and whether you're in support of the bill or not I'm Emily. And yes, I'm totally in the borders. And yes, definitely that love is love. Like you cannot quantify it. This is something that everybody has a right to, and they should be able to be with whoever they feel are changing. [00:12:00] It seems stupid not to, um Do you think the rest of New Zealand are in agreement with you? I think, Yeah. I think the majority are with it. And you think the bill will pass? Hopefully, yeah. Hopefully. I hope it will. Thanks so much. How are you feeling? Are we gonna celebrate tonight? When this bill passes, I'm And [00:12:30] I'm one of the, um, people that's been working on the campaign for marriage Equality. We've been working really hard to organise Australia and also to lobby and support this bill. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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