The title of this recording is "Gertrude Glossip". It was recorded in Civic Square / Te Ngākau, Civic Square/Te Ngākau, Wellington on the 19th March 2011. Gertrude Glossip is being interviewed by Gareth Watkins.  Their names are spelt correctly but may appear incorrectly spelt later in the document. The duration of the recording is 6 minutes. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast Gertrude Glossip from Australia talks about attending the human rights conference. A brief summary of the recording is: This abstract encapsulates the essence of an interview with Gertrude Glossip, conducted by Gareth Watkins in Wellington's Civic Square on March 19, 2011. The interview's central theme revolves around Glossip's multifaceted engagement during their visit to New Zealand, which includes participating in the Asia Pacific Outgames, a human rights conference, and a unique tour at Wellington Zoo. In the podcast, Glossip, who identifies as Dr. Gertrude Glosser with a Ph. D. in formal drapery from Curtin University, discusses their role in educating people about the sexual diversity that exists within the animal kingdom through the "Wild Sex at the Zoo" tours. These tours aim to challenge the traditional notion of heterosexual pairings and monogamy in nature by highlighting the rich spectrum of sexual and social behaviors observed in various animal species. Examples include male giraffes engaging in homosexual behavior and female emus demonstrating polyandrous mating, leaving the male to care for the offspring. Glossip stresses the tour's mission as an infotainment, meant to be both educational and engaging, which was well received by zoo-goers, with two groups of over 20 individuals each attending. The diversity of the audience ranged from those within the LGBT community to a broader section of people. Participants of the tour reported feeling enlightened upon discovering facets of natural behavior they were previously unaware of. Wellington Zoo had reportedly never hosted a sex tour prior to this and supported the venture positively. On the sports front, Glossip mentions winning a gold medal in the triathlon at the Outgames, making them the sole "sexo engineer" in the competition. Besides these activities, the individual also speaks about connecting with first cousins in New Zealand, implying a personal connection to the country and an intense schedule filled with diverse engagements. Moreover, Glossip provides insights into their experiences at cultural and film events within the city, such as the viewing of "Assume Nothing," which discusses body image, and a play titled "Mates and Lovers," where they appreciated the New Zealand humor. Lastly, the individual expresses hopes for the future, wishing that the progressive movement toward accepting and celebrating diversity in lifestyles and love continues to flourish. They see events like the Outgames as a testament to this evolution and hope that in three decades, the momentum continues. In conclusion, the interview captures Glossip's comprehensive experience in Wellington, with discussions ranging from educational tours about sexual diversity in the animal world to participating in sporting and cultural events. Their hopes for future inclusivity and acknowledgement of social diversity shine through as an integral part of the message they wish to convey to audiences in years to come. The full transcription of the recording follows.  It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS].  The transcription begins:  Well, I've got a dual role this week, darling. As you see in this manifestation today, I'm Dr Gertrude Glosser PhD formal drapery Curtin University, and I've been doing wild sex at the zoo. So I've done two wild sex tours tours at the zoo, which is gorgeous. And then my other persona will did the, uh, triathlon the wee triathlon on Sunday. And he was the only sexo engineer in the event for gay the out games. So he won a gold medal, Darling, Congratulations. [00:00:30] Thank you. And then we also went to the at the conference Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. And also we've got some first cousins here in New Zealand. So we've been visiting them, too. So it's been a very full schedule. What was Wild six at the zoo? Well, it's looking at the wonderful social and sexual diversity in the animal world. You know, as I say, it's to explode the myth that all the animals went into the arc as two by two happy heterosexual monogamous couples. It's just not true. [00:01:00] You see, there's this diversity in the way animals do sex and family in nature. And so I like to say to my audience and the world at large. Well, look, Is this a model for Homo SAPIENs? You know, it's not this rigid binary of male female heteros monogamous marriage, you see. But it's an infotainment. It's fun as well as factual. What are some examples, then? Well, some very good examples. For example, male giraffes, [00:01:30] young giraffes from about. They're sexually mature at four, but from 4 to 8, almost all the sexual behaviours in male giraffes is male to male homosexual sex. Yes, and they do this wonderful courtship activity. They're built for it only called necking. They love to neck, and that leads to mounting with erections and orgasm. And that's male to mouth. We we don't usually hear about this, but on the David Attenborough shows, you see, and also for example, um um [00:02:00] the the female emu. I like to wear a coat of arms. She's she's polyandry, darling, you see, and she, um, just mates with the male. She lays the eggs and then she shoots through and takes up with another male, and she leaves the male to incubate and raise the cheeks. And sometimes two males get together. They form a super clutch and two males bring up the family together. So it's an example of same sex parenting in nature. So that's sort of the idea. So during the tour this week, did you see any of that action happening? No, look. Unfortunately, [00:02:30] animals won't always perform on cue. Although I would say the Hamara Baboons, the male gave us a very nice erection and very full frontal and right in our face, you might say. So that was That was very accommodating. And the chimpanzees were certainly lounging and and and displaying lovely genital displays and certain amount of genital fondling. Because that's the other thing I say about wild sex. I like [00:03:00] to point out that sex is not just for procreation. There's there's plenty of examples of the animal world where clearly the sexual activity is not leading appropriation, so therefore, one assumes it must be pleasurable. Had Wellington Zoo ever seen a sex tour before? I don't think they had, and they were. I must give Wellington Zoo an absolute, uh plus because they were really accommodating and very, um, encouraging and supportive. So who took the tour? Yes, well, we had two [00:03:30] groups of last year. We had about 24 and today, 27. So a whole range of people, I must say, I always have a big lesbian following because I'm an intelligent drag person. You see, you're not like some showgirls. You know, I just I don't mean to be rich showgirls very entertaining, but sometimes it's not very cerebral. Do you understand what I mean? And I find lesbians like something that's a bit cerebral, you know? So I've got a big lesbian. Follow me. But there are a lot of gay men, too, and and the whole age ranges young and all. We had a few gabs [00:04:00] today. We had two chaps who are bringing up, um, a babe together. Yes. So that was lovely. So they were like the male. And last week, we had a little gay, a couple, um, with their said to be a man and woman, but they said it was a gay, so I'm not quite sure how that works out. Um, yes. So a whole range of very a very broad section of people. And what kind of responses do you get from people when they come on the tour? Very enthusiastic. They feel they've come away having [00:04:30] been exposed to something that they hadn't been before. You know, the other thing we find the general public are often quite fascinated. As I say. Little boys seem to be very drawn to me, darling, you know, their mothers sometimes have to pull them away. They say, Who's this exotic creature at the zoo? Well, they go to see exotic creatures. And I'm just another example. Only I'm a homo SAPIENs. Yes. So you've been doing a lot this week. Have you been able to get out to other events like other cultural events? Theatre events? Yes. I had a few things that I've had the cousins [00:05:00] to deal with. You know, um and and, of course, the, um, the conference. But I did go to that wonderful film on the Thursday night. The, um, about body image. I can't think of the name that was. Assume nothing. They assume nothing. Thank you. Marvellous. Marvellous. I also went to, uh, mates and lovers and I did get the New Zealand joke. Darling, you know the new 21 minutes to your day. Oh, dear. He's so charming. This young man [00:05:30] the other day go to this one you know, like them young, dumb and full of There's a naughty ad lady. Just one final question. Then if if somebody is hearing this in 30 years time, what would you like to say to them? Well, I would like to think that the the unfolding since the beginning of the gay rights movement, even in 1969 has continued so that that idea of, of, of, of celebrating diversity and and [00:06:00] celebrating a whole range of, of ways of living and loving has become much more pervasive and continues to grow. That's what I'd like to think, and and I think the art games is a manifestation of that. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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