The title of this recording is "Brendan Goudswaard". It was recorded in Wellington Town Hall, 101 Wakefield Street, Wellington on the 16th March 2011. Brendan Goudswaard is being interviewed by Jim Whitman.  Their names are spelt correctly but may appear incorrectly spelt later in the document. The duration of the recording is 5 minutes. A list of correctly spelt content keywords and tags can be found at the end of this document. A brief description of the recording is: In this podcast Brendan Goudswaard from New Zealand talks about attending the human rights conference. The content in the recording covers the 2010s decade. A brief summary of the recording is: This summary encapsulates a recording from the 16th March 2011, featuring an interview with Brendan Goudswaard conducted by Jim Whitman. The interview was held in Wellington Town Hall and spanned approximately five minutes, focusing on Goudswaard's experiences at a human rights conference. In the interview, Goudswaard reflects on the cross-cultural learning aspects of the conference, notably concerning youth and education across different parts of the world. The interview delves into Goudswaard's work with youth, highlighting a particular focus on supporting queer teenagers. Goudswaard is involved in organizing weekly social and supportive meetings for this demographic where they engage in discussions, listen to guest speakers, and participate in various activities. Discussion also turns to the research around the difficulties faced by queer youth in educational settings. Goudswaard acknowledges the findings of both Australian and New Zealand studies, which indicate high levels of homophobia and transphobia encountered by these young individuals in schools. These difficulties range from physical and verbal abuse to educational neglect, where schools fail to properly educate students about identity and diversity. Moreover, the interview addresses the challenges schools face in dealing with topics like homophobia and transphobia, often due to fears of political repercussions or backlash from parents and the majority student population. Goudswaard suggests that addressing these issues is frequently avoided to prevent controversy or attracting unwanted attention from the local press. When asked about the personal impact of the conference, Goudswaard admits that any transformative effect on their personal life might be more apparent upon reflective consideration in the days following the event. Despite this, the discussion makes clear that the conference has reinforced Goudswaard's resolve to engage more proactively with high schools, advocating for talks on sexuality and gender identity. Towards the end of the recording, Goudswaard conveys optimism about the potential positive impact of their work, specifically when entering educational environments to talk directly to students. Highlighting the value of such engagement, Goudswaard believes that this helps students grasp the significance of their language and behaviors towards their peers. The full transcription of the recording follows.  It includes timestamps every thirty seconds in the format [HH:MM:SS].  The transcription begins:  It's really interesting hearing, um uh, people's, uh, covering the youth stream from most of it and hearing people from other parts of the world and their, um, experiences. And, um, yeah, and their experience was youth and and education. And, um, and that sort of thing. Yeah. Do you Do you work with Pacific Island young people? Um, IIII. I [00:00:30] tend to work with youth in general. Uh, so I that does it does include some, uh, uh, Pacific youth as well. Um, yeah. Generally, Yeah. Just, uh, youth in general around the region. Do you Do you work with a particular to do drama, or is it generally it's generally work, uh, with a It's a social and support group for queer teenagers. Um, so you have we run and coordinate, [00:01:00] uh, meetings, Uh, on a weekly basis for you to come along and we have discussions and guest speakers and, uh, topics or activities or, um, whatever that involves. And gay youth at that. Yeah. Yeah. I. I, uh, is all encompassing word. Um, to include all the different, uh, genders and sexualities. We do that. So, yeah. Do [00:01:30] you think that research that suggests that young people get a quite a hard time at schools. I mean, like, 80% or something like that at the time. Could be rough. Is that a Is that an accurate depiction for New Zealand? Do you think that that was Australian research? There was some research done here in New Zealand, and they did. Their findings are very much the same sort of thing. Um, so, you know, I think it is still quite hard for youth. Queer youth [00:02:00] in high schools in New Zealand. Um, I think it's still there is a lot of, uh, homophobia and transphobia, uh, in schools. Um, yes, I think calling physical, physical verbal. Um, yeah, all sorts. All sorts of, um, and as far as the ingenuity can go, yeah. Yeah. So and also neglect, I suppose, on the educational side of things as well, [00:02:30] uh, to educate the youth about, uh, I identity and the diversity and as well, it sounded as if the schools could be pretty cowardly. Um, yeah. And I think a lot of schools, uh, can be quite cowardly and hesitant to, uh, touch on the subjects of homophobia and transphobia. And, um, things like that, uh [00:03:00] must I assume? Because they don't want to upset, um, the other students, the majority of the students, or the majority of the parents who it's a political local political question is work with young people about sexuality or gender going to bring the local press in. Is that one of a range of things? Um, yeah, Possibly. Yeah. Do do you Have you learnt anything personal? [00:03:30] You know something about yourself, or how? How the the the conference affected your own life? Oh, it's really good question. Um, and I think it'll if if it has, it will be more in reflection time of the next few days. And I was reflecting on it all, uh, where things like, click over and click into place. And, um, yes, over the next few days, when I [00:04:00] really sort of see how the conference has affected me personally, um, at this stage, I think it's all too fresh in my head to really sort of, Yeah, is the conference has it led to any sort of early conclusions about what you'd like to do when you get back to work? Conferences are notorious for setting you up to feel terrible when you get back to work? Yeah. Um, no, I think I yeah, definitely sort of pushed me to [00:04:30] try and, um uh, push to get out into high schools more. And because part of what youth work is getting into high schools and, uh, doing talks on sexuality and gender identity. Um, yeah, through the high schools. I, I think you really want to push to try and do more of that through the local high schools. Um, because I feel that it's something that's important that's being missed by a lot of high schools. Do you think what you do? Does it create a bit of a head of steam? [00:05:00] Yeah. And I think it, um, you getting into schools, I think, really does help. And, um, talking to the students, I think you can sit and watch them as they take it all in, and you sort of watch them the the class that you're there, you can watch them realise just what will affect their language and their behaviour can have on other students. Um, it really helps them understand. Um, yeah. The full transcription of the recording ends. A list of keywords/tags describing the recording follow. These tags contain the correct spellings of names and places which may have been incorrectly spelt earlier in the document. 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