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titlePublic Forum in Defence of Puberty Blockers
descriptionAudio from public forum in defence of puberty blockers, held in St Peters Church, Willis Street, Wellington on Tuesday 9 December 2025. The event was organised by Queer Endurance in Defiance (QED) and Wellington Workers' Educational Association (WEA), in response to the government’s upcoming ban on puberty blockers (GnRH analogues) for transgender youth. Note the date of the presentation of the petition to Parliament was later moved to 18 December 2025. A special thanks to the organisers, participants and St Peter's church for allowing this event to be recorded and shared. Details. 0:00:01 - Tris and Amal, welcome. 0:03:54 - Student and youth speakers. 0:06:30 - Speaker. 0:09:10 - Queer, political and activist organisation speakers. 0:12:20 - Speaker. 0:15:45 - Speaker (without microphone). 0:19:15 - Health care speakers. 0:34:04 - Speaker. 0:36:30 - Tris, chants. 0:38:05 - Education and union speakers. 0:41:04 - Speaker. 0:43:15 - Speaker. 0:46:10 - Speaker. 0:49:38 - Speaker. 0:52:20 - Speaker. 0:58:48 - Speaker. 1:02:35 - Speaker. 1:05:00 - Takatāpui speakers. 1:08:26 - Parent speakers. 1:18:45 - Speaker. 1:19:50 - Speaker. 1:23:26 - Amal. 1:24:28 - Tris. 1:30:14 - Open mic. 1:31:40 - Speaker. 1:34:15 - Speaker. 1:37:06 - Speaker. 1:38:45 - Speaker. 1:43:34 - Speaker. 1:45:33 - Speaker. 1:48:19 - Speaker. 1:51:05 - Tris, closing.
summary_computer_generatedThe event brings together trans youth, transgender adults, parents, healthcare workers, education professionals, union representatives, takatāpui speakers, and community organisers to respond to the New Zealand Government’s decision to restrict access to puberty blockers for young people. Chaired and emceed by Tris with Amal supporting facilitation, the forum opens with karakia and a clear focus on sharing lived experience, evidence-based healthcare, human rights, and practical strategy for collective action. Early speakers are students and young trans people who describe gender dysphoria as painful, isolating, and disruptive to everyday life. They see puberty blockers as providing time, reducing distress, and preventing unwanted physical changes. Several challenge the reliance on overseas narratives and the UK Cass report, describing it as unscientific and politically weaponised. Their messages emphasise that puberty blockers do not “make” someone transgender; instead, they can improve wellbeing and allow young people space to understand identity without irreversible pressure. Representatives from queer and activist organisations outline immediate organising goals, including petitions and mobilisation at Parliament. Speakers argue the restriction is an ideological intervention in medicine and part of a broader culture war imported from overseas. Calls are made to build broad alliances across unions, faith communities, professional bodies, and community groups, with the explicit aim of forcing political accountability and reversing the decision. There is strong emphasis on solidarity, visibility, and sustained public pressure through rallies, media attention, and coordinated organising. Healthcare workers deliver a detailed, NZ-focused critique of the ban, repeatedly stressing that puberty blockers have a long history of use in paediatric care and are not a new or experimental treatment. They reference New Zealand specialists and professional organisations that have condemned the government’s approach, arguing that prescribing decisions should remain between clinicians, patients, and whānau. Speakers highlight the ethical and practical challenges of randomised controlled trials in paediatrics and note that many other commonly used child health treatments operate with similar evidence constraints. The argument is that puberty blockers are being singled out and held to a higher standard than comparable areas of medicine, suggesting political motives rather than patient safety. Multiple contributors describe the move as unprecedented in New Zealand: a Cabinet-level decision targeting a specific medicine through regulatory change rather than normal clinical and medicines oversight processes. Union and education speakers broaden the focus from healthcare to the everyday realities of trans youth at school and in workplaces. Teachers describe trans students as present, visible, and needing support, with puberty blockers seen as life-saving and protective against distress. Union representatives from the PSA and E tū condemn the ban, positioning it as discrimination and a direct attack on vulnerable rangatahi. Speakers underline organised labour’s historical role in social change, including homosexual law reform, and propose union-backed resistance, including support for clinicians facing disciplinary action and discussion of industrial action. Some argue explicitly for civil disobedience by healthcare providers, supported collectively by unions and allied workers, to challenge an unlawful or unethical restriction. A takatāpui speaker centres Te Tiriti o Waitangi, tino rangatiratanga, and mana motuhake, arguing the ban breaches Treaty obligations and deepens existing inequities in Māori healthcare. They emphasise that Māori and takatāpui rangatahi already experience lower trust and poorer access in the health system, and warn that approaches focusing only on Pākehā experiences risk leaving Māori behind. The forum repeatedly returns to intersectionality, insisting that what improves outcomes for Māori trans people will strengthen health equity for everyone. Parents and community members describe the fear created by public demonisation, the risk of media exposure for children, and the uneven ability to navigate healthcare pathways. Several acknowledge privilege and the reality that some families are pushed towards private care while others cannot. One speaker links the ban to broader political patterns, noting how attacks on trans rights can be connected to threats against abortion rights and other healthcare freedoms. In the open mic part of the event, speakers focus on strategy: petition handover, protest planning, building public mandate, legal challenge through the Professional Association for Transgender Health Aotearoa (PATHA), and everyday conversations to counter ignorance before it hardens into prejudice. There are personal stories of mental health struggles, self-harm, suicide attempts, and the harm of being forced through an unwanted puberty, reinforcing the forum’s core message that timely access to gender-affirming healthcare saves lives and reduces suffering.
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voicesAdaire Hannah; Amal Samaha; Bill Logan; Fleur Fitzsimons; Kay Jones; Rangimoana Taylor; Tristan-Cordelia; unidentified voice(s)
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