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| master_duration | 24:04 |
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| media_source | PrideNZ.com |
| copyright_position | In copyright |
| copyright_ownership | Gareth Watkins (PrideNZ.com) |
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| submitted_to_nlnz | 24-07-2025 |
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| production_date | 15-07-2025 |
| production_day | 15 |
| production_month | 07 |
| production_year | 2025 |
| recording_type | Podcast |
| series | Out On These Streets |
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| title | Out On These Streets - episode 3 |
| description | In this third episode, hosts Gareth and Roger of Walk Tours NZ look at promotion and marketing, managing registrations and enhancing the tour with visual flip books and audio clips. |
| summary_computer_generated | In the third episode of Out on These Streets, hosts Gareth Watkins and Roger Smith of Walk Tours NZ delve into the promotional, logistical, and creative aspects of running Rainbow walk tours. Titled The Invitation, the episode covers a broad range of practical strategies for engaging audiences and enhancing the tour experience, with a focus on Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand. The conversation opens with a listener question about applying modern labels to historical figures. Gareth and Roger explain their decision not to label individuals unless they self-identified, preferring instead to offer context without imposing identity. They cite examples such as Katherine Mansfield and the long-time companionship of Effie Pollen and Ursula Bethell, highlighting the importance of respecting historical ambiguity. The episode then turns to scripting tours. Roger recommends using bullet-point scripts to maintain clarity and pacing. Without structure, it’s easy for a tour to run long, which can be overwhelming for participants. They advise focusing each stop on a few core points to keep the tour moving and engaging. A significant portion of the episode discusses visual enhancements—particularly flip books. These plastic folders of printed images are used in place of tablets or screens. They’re more affordable, durable, and practical in all weather conditions. Flip books allow participants to view historic photos, newspaper headlines, and graphics that help reconstruct scenes where buildings or venues no longer exist. Gareth and Roger stress the importance of bold, high-contrast images that can be seen from a distance but also offer interest up close. They outline sources for such images, including Wikipedia, Facebook groups like Lost Gay Wellington, Wellington Recollect, the National Library of New Zealand, and DigitalNZ. These platforms often host freely available images, though Gareth and Roger caution listeners to always check permissions, especially since participants might take and share photos from the flip books. Papers Past is noted as a rich source for historical newspaper imagery, even if some visuals are of low resolution. They also discuss experimenting with AI-generated enhancements of historical images, with clear disclaimers that they are interpretive and not intended to falsify history. The use of handouts, such as timelines and maps, is another key element. For example, in the Carmen Rupe tour, participants receive a printed timeline of her life and business locations, helping them orient chronologically as the tour weaves between times and places. Audio also plays a role. The hosts describe using snippets from the PrideNZ oral history archive, played on portable speakers to bring in other voices—especially those of well-known figures like Carmen Rupe. These voices add colour and depth while offering a personal connection to the stories told. Audio is carefully curated to suit public spaces, avoiding inappropriate content. The team also provides business cards after tours, which include a link to a post-tour survey and the Walk Tours NZ website. These keepsakes offer attendees a way to provide feedback and stay engaged. Tour timing is carefully considered. Weekends at 1pm and 90-minute durations have proven most successful. Seasonal weather also influences route planning — shelter in winter and shade in summer are both key. Tours are typically advertised three months in advance through a WordPress website and a Facebook page. The registration system helps manage attendance and cancellations, with a 50% turnout rate typical of free events. Paid tours tend to have a higher attendance follow-through. COVID-19 impacted the tours significantly, with a shift to online formats during lockdowns and ongoing caution about group gatherings. The hosts share that they've had mixed results with paid advertising on social media and caution against broad promotions due to negative reactions. Instead, they favour targeted outreach, such as collaborating with community organisations. A successful example was their Bruce Burnett tour, promoted through the Burnett Foundation Aotearoa and others, resulting in strong, engaged attendance. Finally, they highlight the value of aligning with major festivals — Wellington Pride, Queer History Month, Aotearoa Festival of Architecture and the Wellington Heritage Festival — where their tours reach new audiences and receive enthusiastic responses. |
| interviewer | |
| voices | Gareth Watkins; Roger Smith |
| tags | 2010s; 2020s; walk tour; walking; Aotearoa New Zealand; Wellington; Walktours NZ; Gareth Watkins; Roger Smith |
| tags_computer_generated | lesbian; gay; bisexual; media; history; archives; labels; Carmen Rupe; Christchurch; venues; Body Positive; library; writing; social; 1860s; social media; volunteer; Bruce Burnett; women; internet; love; queer; study; council; homosexual; books; narrative; marketing; advertising; newspapers; rainbow; building; running; change; opportunity; National Library of New Zealand; public toilet; clubs; heritage; images online; voice; march; individual; activities; bars; other; press release; email; resource; Harris Street; code; Wellington City Council; boxes; homosocial; work; survey; website; success; plan; shade; Cuba Street; Wellington Pride; records; Space; hit; People; Events; Cuba; audience; rewrite history; speech; time; podcast; Effie Pollen; business card; architecture; Wellington Pride Festival; AIDS |
| location_name | Wellington |
| location | Wellington |
| broader_location | Aotearoa New Zealand |
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| location_long | 174.78013410486557 |
| precise_locality | false |