Well, my name is Beth Johnson, and I'm here tonight representing speak up for women. We are talking about the implications of six self identification within the births, deaths and marriages bill. And this has been a nationwide tour year of doing kind of discussions. That's right. Yes, this is our seventh event, I think and part of our nationwide tour and held the events been received. really positive from the people that have attended the events. And we've had peaceful protests. And now centre, we expect a peaceful protest here later tonight. Um, give me a sense of who's in the audience's for these events and in kind of the demographics. While you're more than welcome to come inside and hear and see, save yourself. And we have a really mixed group of people, mostly women, and of all ranges of ages. A lot of lesbian woman and bisexuals, we usually have some men and some transactional support and events as well. What are the key messages that you want to kind of get out tonight, we're discussing the fact that biological sex sometimes matters in life and should remain protected and lower. And this has implications for exes and eligibility to single sex spaces and services. It has implications for the definition of sexual attraction and homosexual, for example. So biological sex exists at matters. And it shouldn't be entirely replaced by the concept of gender identity and our laws. And if it is going to happen, this giant change this big must go to Select Committee so that we can have a proper robust democratic public debate about it. So to speak up for women formed for this one issue. Yes, pick up for woman was formed in 2018, to put pressure on the government to reconsider the sixth identification clause, which had been added into the bill after public submissions had closed. So Tracy Martin deferred the bill in 2019, when it became apparent that this undemocratic process had been followed. So two years later, we have a new government who is intent on pushing the bill through to its second reading. And we're saying Havers fundamental legal issues being addressed. Tracy Martin identified them from a crown law opinion, have they been addressed? Will the public have an opportunity to submit on these fundamental changes? Next, what we're discussing? And ultimately, what do what what do you want to see him? Ultimately, we want this bill to go to Select Committee. So New Zealand does cancer match, we want to have a conversation about how we can advance the rights and the life outcomes of transgender people without impacting the rights of women and girls. And we believe that that's possible and it that conversation can happen. It's not happening yet. Throughout the last events that you've had, and there has been some opposition, has it surprised? You? Know, it hasn't surprised us because ever since we formed in 2018, there's been a concerted smear campaign against our group, and our political opponents have vested in us not being heard, because they want this bill to pass unchallenged. So there's been a lot of effort gone into not hearing our perspective. I think that's changing now I think people realise that we are reasonable. We've got genuine concerns, and that we want to work on solutions. And when you say smear campaign, what's been happening? We've been called a hate group. We've been called anti trans. We've been called bigots. You name it. It's been said I won't name the organization's that have perpetuated through the media, but it's been pretty concerted. And it's been designed to stop the museum public from listening to what we have to say.