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[00:00:05] Well, I'm john lies, and I'm part of guideline Wellington. And we've come along to talk to various organizations about the listing on our website and what we can do to help them to do more.
[00:00:18] Tell me about the website.
[00:00:19] Well, it's been around since the year 2000. It's got about 500 listings of gay and gay, friendly organizations nationwide. Now. We have around about 45, I think it is articles of interesting guy. And basically people love those articles. Now, we've arranged for people to be able to make their own comments on the on the articles, we monitor those, of course, and only the sensible ones through. And there's some quite good discussions going on about religion, and guys, sexuality, good discussions going on about sexuality generally, really, some of it's quite deep stuff, going interesting
[00:01:11] price of this website, it must have been quite hard to actually get a kind of a hub where all that information was collected in one place.
[00:01:18] It's not collective anywhere else that wasn't never has been before now. So this is the first time that has been a national database of gay information. And it's really, I think, worthwhile results.
[00:01:32] So 500 entries, how easy is it to manage.
[00:01:36] Maintaining it, and keeping it up to date is massively difficult. But at least it's all in one place. And we've organized things so that other organizations can share that information, I can draw on our database and use that to create listings on their own websites. So that potentially means that you only need to edit a listing of one organization in one place. Obviously, that's not achieved yet. But that's potential.
[00:02:06] So today, we're at the legends of show and tell which is looking at kind of archiving and the the rainbow space. One of the comments made this morning was well, what do we do with all this digital information? How are we going to archive us? Do you have any thoughts on how you keep this information now, but also keeping it going in the future?
[00:02:27] I haven't thought about this before. By chance, I suppose nothing that we create on the website is thrown away, it's all archived. So it could be drawn on. People could get into the database, given access to it, and get a better history about how organizations have evolved over time. That's an interesting thought. One thing I guess we need to really think about that I think I know, you remind me of think I need to talk to a games that how we keep this information in the future, or for the future. We might die anytime, you know, who knows. And
[00:03:09] it seems such an amazing resource with you know, contact details with descriptions about so many different community events and organizations, it would be such a shame to kind of
[00:03:22] lose things, it would Yes. And
[00:03:27] we'd like it to be even bigger than others actually, one of our big problems is is people resources, to do the editing to gather the information to keep it up to date. If we could only get a few more people involved, we could do one of a lot more. I would potentially that at least double the amount of listings available. If we really worked
[00:03:50] with the number of listings that have come in, have there been any organizations and events that have just like really kind of surprised you thinking, Oh, I didn't realize there was a particular group out there or
[00:04:00] Yeah, as well as officially outside Wellington. I'm reasonably in touch with what's going on in Wellington. But yeah, there's just an amazing amount of stuff going on around the country as a whole. I was particularly ignorant about the South Island and quite amazed to see so much stuff going on. And places like domain knowledge. We think there wasn't too much happening. But yes, there is. Yeah. All kinds of courses big, much bigger than than us. And luckily, outline and Oakland are actually maintaining Oakland data on that website. So we are sharing the workload a little bit. Yeah.
[00:04:41] This year 2015, we are working towards the 50th anniversary of homosexual law reform. goes fast. I'm wondering, can you kind of reflect on? How far do you think we have come in that 30 years? And are there things that we still need to look at?
[00:05:01] Well, with Sydney come an awful long way. At the time of law reform, I was working in a senior government position, and I had to be extremely careful about sharing my private life with people. At that time, I would just have to have is is security checks. And they were probably Brenda's. Well, I don't know if that still goes on. Because I don't work anymore. I'm retired now. But I'm imagining it doesn't matter anymore. People don't do that. So the stress of
[00:05:37] the stress of keeping your sexuality.
[00:05:42] The knowledge of your sexuality is aware, safe, is gone completely. For the majority of people, be still people who, for instance, a married guy, he might have a need to keep this sexuality to himself those that want to change, but that's for personal reasons, not for legal reasons. Yeah. So this become a much more relaxed society. On the other hand, because it's easy to be gay now, we don't need social organizations that are exclusively gay. The Gay world is changing in such a way that it's sometimes quite hard to keep some social organizations going, they die, because they're not needed so much. And bad in a place different sorts of organizations are standing up. So and that's one of the things about this function function here today. It's interesting to see the variety of different organizations that are needed, and how different they are from what they were a few years ago. I back in the 70s. It was all about socializing and meeting people. Now it's about activities and what people do with their lives and we don't have to be secret about socializing anymore. Yeah.