Wellington waterfront walk tour

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[00:00:00] This program is brought to you by pride nz.com [00:00:05] cura, we begin this walk tour at Cameron repays rebel con, a cabaret nightclub on the corner of Harris and Victoria streets. Today the balcony has been replaced by a corner of Wellington City Library in the early 1970s, done a demo widget, the cabaret as a waitress, and in this recording, she recalls some of the entertainment that was on offer. [00:00:26] Commons was never advertised as a drag show ever. [00:00:30] It was a cabaret. [00:00:33] It got out that they were queens that were there. But no one ever knew who it was. And it was so funny being a waitress because I used to hear it and they go, and there was one girl and she used the dune attendant strobe lights on and crushing it, say the brood she had about five kids. And she used to do tests rolling with the booze one go one way man, the other go to give her up and down all away. And of course, that used to say these one bits one, I used to pick all the real girls as being the dregs they never knew. You know, we used to have sailors from all around the world come in, and they've said that New Zealand had the best strikes I've ever seen in their lives. Because what America was you see in the very unsustainable those Marty girls, and I just couldn't believe all the girls and how glamorous we were. [00:01:24] For the walkway up to the side of the public library, keep going until the looking into the center of civic square. To your right, you'll see city gallery formerly the Public Library. To your left, you'll see the Wellington Town Hall. Civic square, civic square has been the location for a number of large rainbow gatherings, particularly out on the square and annual rainbow fear which began in Newtown in 1996, and moved to civic square in 2008. The location was also a focal point for the second Asia Pacific out games and 2011. And the rally for marriage equality in 2012. From civic square, the equality rally moved through the city and ended up at Parliament. And this recording participants share their thoughts. [00:02:12] My name is Bernie packet and I'm very very foldable. It's just you know, a basic human equal ride. My name is Josh and I think that it is an extremely necessary step to the future of properly cutting out homophobia. Hi, my name is Casey and I am so in support of the bow because I think that is one really important sip and gaining full equality for queer people. I'm not ready yet. I think it's fantastic. I'm lesbian and I guess it kind of just makes sense like in terms of not being discriminated against something that is not wrong and not in your control in any way. And it's just I don't know, I think it's just time it's time for us to move forward. [00:03:03] City gallery in 1995, the gallery hosted a controversial retrospective of us photographer Robert Mapplethorpe, which was seen by 45,000 people. The same year, the gallery hosted an exhibition of PMHU, which carried a census warning. In the mid 1980s, when the building was part of the public library, a lower ground floor auditorium was used for community meetings to discuss homosexual law reform. And this recording, Rod McLeod Morrison recounts one of those meetings, we had the chief of police and the bishop Paul to and couple of MPs and it was very full. And all of these people were getting up and saying, if you don't vote for the bill, we're going to vote you out of office. If you don't do this, we're going to say this, so make certain you don't get your job back again. And I got rather annoyed with all of this and stood out and said that we had to stop threatening that we weren't good enough. We're threatening people and demanding people, but we had to educate people that we had to spend time to educate people that we were also people that we also had feelings. They also had emotions, and that we also had principles and morals. The result of which, after a little speech like that, I got booed and asked to leave, as I was negative to the cause of the homosexual law reform. Wellington Town Hall, the town hall has hosted numerous artistic, political and celebratory events to do with rainbow communities. In 2011, the Town Hall was the hub venue for the second Asia Pacific out games and human rights conference. And in the mid 1980s, both anti and pro homosexual or four meetings were held there. And this recording, Julie Commissioner recalls an anti homosexual Law Reform meeting in 1995. There was [00:04:59] a rally which was organized by the anti gay forces. So so we arrived here and on the stage with the speakers, they just stood up and said, hell revolting, guys, we're that we caused aids that, you know, it was disgusting, filthy and perverted. And so it was just really awful. And people were sitting and yelling, and I was sitting next to mixing and I just felt like we weren't actually doing it. So nobody was actually seeing us be gay if you know what I mean OB lesbian. So see to Max, let's just let's have a kiss. So we just stood up, and then we just really had a very big long kiss. And it was just fantastic. There was a TV camera at the time and they focused on us. This way we wanted we wanted to have us at the forefront, to have us as the focus of that meeting, not the vile things that they were saying. [00:06:01] Turn around to face the harbor. To your left you'll see the green lawn, the former site of circa theater, and beyond that Harris street circa theater. The top twins performed here in 1983. Harvey Feinstein's Torch Song Trilogy was performed here in 1985, and beautiful thing in 1994. The theater subsequently moved to the waterfront by to papa Harris Street. On a night in July 1975, a police officer questioned MP Conan Doyle, who was lingering around a well known cruising spot in Harris Street. The incident eventually led to his resignation from parliament. And this recording former MP Marilyn Waring talks about the use of homosexuality as a political weapon. [00:06:51] Peter Tapsell was addressing the YK division of the Labour Party. And he got front page headlines by saying that the government's policy on women was being run by bear and needs to be done when the reagan electorate disappeared and altogether and I had to begin again and when the white power electorate [00:07:16] and was challenged by four other men main, the main quote whenever they wrote those little paragraph about yourself, I have a normal family. So there was love about, you know, you could have a representative who had a normal family life. [00:07:34] On the night the government fell in 1984 after molding and hit quite a lot of brandy. He called me a perverted little liar. [00:07:45] Walk towards the harbor over the bridge and down the left hand steps to Frank kits Park lagoon. In the 1990s, the lagoon was the site for beacons of hope and memorial ceremony for those who had died from age related conditions. The memorial was based upon the annual International AIDS candlelight memorial service. There's been held since May 1983. And this recording, Bill Logan records the first memorial ceremony at the lagoon [00:08:14] Richard Benz organized the first and that was amazing because he made these huge beacons kerosene soaked on big poles and they were they were big and spectacular and bold. And there's something about fire and very primal [00:08:41] I original list [00:08:45] of the people I knew died. [00:08:49] The first man I love [00:08:52] guys that I partied with young men I saw coming out people who lived in a house and were friends. I guess that it's difficult to know what to think these things have on you because you don't know what the alternative was. You don't know what life would have been. [00:09:27] Welcome to the waterfront and follow the habit pathway towards the Museum of New Zealand to pop out on a day where you will find circa theater just before you get to papa. The waterfront parade route has seen a number of rainbow related parades, including the love parade in 2016. And the opening parade in the second Asia Pacific outcomes and human rights conference in 2011. In this recording participants who had a hickey and Sumit board, look forward 30 years [00:09:56] I came out well 30 odd years ago, back then it wasn't hiding. We will get right we get beaten. And you'd have to pass as a straight person whether you win or get married. I'm hoping in 30 years time at my grandchildren if any of them are gay or transgender or transitioning [00:10:14] that they can turn around say thanks, Neil. At least you are brave enough to say that it was okay. And at least you're brave enough to say that I'm okay for who I am and that you accepted me. [00:10:24] Life is a joy for the journey. And that joyful journey always has and will have obstacles, what is important as a spirit to not be defeated by obstacles and to continue struggling. The opportunities that struggles provide to live a fulfilling life should not be missed, and we should tackle our obstacles head on and fight and survive. [00:10:56] circa theater in 2014 the production Regent and Douglas was performed here by Jennifer Ward Leland and pianist Michael Houston. It explored the complex relationship between composer Douglas Lilburn and painter Rita Angus. A few years earlier, this was the venue for Kathy downes's play the case of Katherine Mansfield. And this recording Alison Laurie reads from Mansfield's journal about her relationship with Edith Kathleen Bendel [00:11:23] and Drew 1907 she writes about an episode with Edith Kathleen Bendel at the beach holiday cottage and David Spade, she writes I feel powerfully all those social sexual impulses with words and I have with any men, I feel it to lie was my head on a breeze disappear what life can hold pillows against her, clinging to her hands, her face against mine. I am a child a woman and more than half men. We lay down together still silently, she every now and then pressing me to hear kissing me, my head on her breasts, your hands around my body, stroking me lovingly. What an experience and when we return town, small wonder that I could not sleep but tossed to and fro and yearned and realized 1000 times which had been obscure. Oh, Oscar, MI particularly susceptible to sexual impulse. I must be I suppose, but I rejoice. Now each time I see her. I want her to put your arms around me and hold me against her. I think she wants to two but she is afraid and custom he just we're in I feel we should go away again. [00:12:29] tipa The Museum of New Zealand to pop October holds numerous rainbow related town treasures. In 3d the New Zealand aids Memorial quilt, which was gifted to the museum in 2012. The museum also has Towner from Carmen rupee, the photographs of Brian break and an exhibition featuring homosexual Laura for material and more. And this recording Nicki AD and Megan butcher talk about Robins panel of the New Zealand aids Memorial quilt. [00:13:00] Foremost and the local mate the FY Hickey island which is on the hierarchy golf with New Zealand and is where he was born on the second domain 1958. [00:13:09] So this year he would have been held [00:13:12] for 54 years today is and I was having a discussion with Megan last night about well, I wonder what he would have been as a 54 year old mean that you know, time stop them at 33. And that's how we remember him. Yeah, at the age of 33. So and there is a family. We loved him unconditionally. And every single day he walks with us and us today here at to papa I'm feeling very honored and very privileged. And he would so so want to be here he would just really appreciate the many, many lies a history that that lay behind these panels on human rights the whole lot. You know, politics just so much lies behind these quotes. [00:13:58] Remember say that he walks with us all the time literally he does because I actually had I've got a Red River tattooed on my leg and a memorial website which I had done a couple years ago so [00:14:12] now returned to the waterfront and walked towards what was formerly the overseas passenger terminal. The terminal was the site of the first devotion dance party in December 1991. Like hero and Oakland devotion became a festival with parties a parade and other activities celebrating rainbow diversity. The terminal has now been converted to apartments. In this recording Hamish alibis talks about how the party got its name. [00:14:40] We were all sitting around on my Harrison has been to Nairobi kalpa road, and it has sat there and we were trying to figure a name for this event. And because it was going to be by the ocean and the overseas terminal we were trying to think of something that would rhyme with by the ocean solidification device and by the ocean. And thank God we dropped by the ocean that this became devotion and it became devoted to whatever it was that you wanted to be devoted to so you could be devoted to hedonism or safe stakes or love you know and it was really had a lovely spirit that kind of captivated the imagination of people and they filled the path of anyway there was a woman that one of them you know what's going on we're all the men you know, we're all doing all the work and I said for goodness sake, haven't you realized that don't do that dying? Our community ladies are dying and it was very much the case. You know, everyone, our brightest, most fabulous hit the bars [00:15:41] from the overseas passenger terminal follow hood street away from the harbor. This will take you alongside why Tony Park and onto oriental parade. Why can you park the inaugural album The park was healthier in 2016. The celebration grew out of the annual album The square, which in turn grew out of the lesbian and gay fear first held at Newtown school in 1986. During the homosexual law reform, a fear thoroughfare law and this recording to Gina by addresses the 2015 fear which was held in Ghazni Street, use a bad weather conditions at the park. [00:16:21] I never thought that I would see a day when we could come together as a community and share our fabulousness with our city and our country. And I am so proud and humbled really, to have been one amongst many who fought the good fight to find us here sharing who we are, and being love for it. I think I of course have been fortunate enough to be a representative not only of the water rapper, but in Parliament, about about gay community and particularly our transgender community for me. And wildlife, we have substantially gained more rights than we thought we could in. There are still some way to go for some of our sector of our community, and we asked you to stand in solidarity with us as we continue. But more importantly since we have been a country that has led the way in so many ways. We need to help our brothers and sisters and others around the world who are not enjoying the freedoms and liberties that we enjoy here. [00:17:32] For our enterprise inland, quite frankly pack will be on your right across to the other side of the road at the cable street traffic Island. keep falling oriental parade as it changes into Kent terrace. bets theater, bets theater has seen a variety of rainbow related productions including Confessions of a drag queen, corner for AM and Cuba. I fly about the hate murder of Wellington teenager Jeff Wellington in 1999. And the youth collaborative theater piece that so gay in 2012. And this recording participants effects Okay, talk about the production. [00:18:10] We've talked about having a gift [00:18:12] day a target to share these and these are our stories and it's not to go, these are our stories, listen [00:18:19] krY here Laffy or whatever, you [00:18:21] know, all we're doing is opening up our hearts and our minds and sharing that what we're gaining from this play is more what we're giving to everyone else with this pain. So we've all had a chance to share our stories with each other, which gave us the opportunity to know each other better understand each other better. and that in turn, what we're going to give to the audience these same stories and a more dramatized way, but the essence is still there. And it's just that we want people to know that we're out there that there are quite youth who live through these experiences that we have. [00:19:00] Directly opposite bets theatre is the Taj Mahal toilet. And on the other side of that downstage Theatre on Cambridge terrorists, you can cross the downstage theater at the intersection of major Bank Street and kink terrace. Taj Mahal toilet. The public toilet opened in 1929, and was part of the regular beat for anonymous six. The site is now a bar and restaurant. And this recording, Danny talks about police tactics used to attract men. [00:19:29] When I saw plainclothes policemen they were either extremely shy gay men and of course this probable to, but not very good at doing their entrapment. They would send hunky men, they just didn't know how to behave. You could almost pick them because that play a little bit, but they wouldn't get a hard on. Now. They would also send young boys I'm very fortunate, but young boys have never appealed to me. And so I Lyft when this beam younger people with a police officer, How far would they go to have to prove something? And I think you would have had to have touched them or attempted to offer them. Although six or something if you were seeing masturbating and actually came in a toilet episode of a stubble offense. And I think they looked over the top, which always amazed me. You know, I wonder how long that watch people before they decided Oh, well, we've had enough for now. [00:20:33] downstage theatre downstage theater has seen many rainbow related performances, including Angels in America, shopping and fucking boys in the band, and locally created works black faggots drum drag la blockstream run along undressing and mates and lovers based on the book by Chris Brickell. And this recording playwright Ronald Trafigura, Nelson, and producer a hiker and a heroine talk about experiencing homophobia during the production of mates and lovers. We were doing publicity for the show. So been using a certain venue that I'm not going to name any who the actors are passionately kissing, you know, undressing and stomp stomp outcomes angry staff member who was not happy and it was really interesting for me to witness I'm looking at you hear about things like that and people are still hold on to the homophobic or I thought was a bit of a homophobic kind of job that she had. And that's what really triggered it off. But it's really interesting to witness that to me [00:21:29] bringing it all back home. I mean, it's like homosexuality is like an intellectual thing. Yeah, they deserve equal rights and yeah, they deserve to have civil unions and they deserve that. But if we just keep it out of our face, we don't want to see that stuff like it's dirty or just do that in your bedroom kind of stuff. Huh? You know and and everybody thinks even we've won the battle everything's hunky dory at home Oh, land Well, it eight kids are killing themselves left and right. committing suicide kids again beat up in school. We face discrimination in ways that we were not even aware of. [00:22:07] From downstage theater turned to face Courtney place and walk to the tripod sculpture. From there begin to walk along Courtney place, you are now traveling back towards civic square. Paramount theatre, the Paramount has hosted the mostly annual outtakes a real queer Film Festival since the mid 1990s. In 2015, the theater premiered New Zealand's first lesbian web series potluck, written and directed by Miss Simons. And this recording, new Simon's talked about stereotypes and film. [00:22:41] I was so sick of watching stereotypical portrayals of lesbian that I didn't connect with, I didn't understand I got frustrated word I got angry about sometimes, you know that, that it almost paralyzed me into writing my own lesbian characters, because I was so scared of repeating, you know, kind of poor representations that I've seen from other people. And it is [00:23:06] one of the things that that I feel like I need to push, you know, that I do. I try to push in the way [00:23:12] in order to kind of get there because otherwise you don't get live with stereotypes you get live with these people that are safe, you know, they've had the reasons that we see so many terror types is because they are safe, you know, they're a safe representation. They're an accepted representation of a certain kind of person, or a certain kind of moment. [00:23:32] For space gallery, photo space gallery has exhibited a number of rainbow artists, including photographers, Mark Beery, and jack Lynch. In 2015, jack did a photographic essay and titled Butch on Butch. And this recording via little, one of the participants talks about the language of identity. [00:23:52] It's funny because I actually feel a bit like a fraud and terms of and I know that I identify as Butch is such and then I sort of have to think about as that kind of bush phobia is that you know, like we just what is there [00:24:09] because when I came out it was you hit to be one or the other. And a few of them are here to be female, but a few female quite marginalized actually. And it was a lot of crap that kind of went around woman who did look straight, but I've always identified as a tomboy, have always end You know, there is a continuum. So I'm kind of at the at the boyish end of it and androgynous and tomboy and and I've always been attracted to miss Galen kind of woman. Yeah. And then it makes me think about what is masculine. And, you know, we all have both, you know, and all different shades of that stuff. So I thought, you know, it's good for me to to do this sort of stuff just to have more of a self exploration I guess. [00:24:58] Body positive into body positive, a peer support organization for people living with HIV AIDS, established a Wellington drop in Center here in 2013, closing in 2015. Just around the corner at 45 Tori street now Chow was the location of the New Zealand aids Foundation's Athena Center, which opened in August 1997. The center is now located in Willis Street. And this recording Caitlin's Lee founding Chair of the foundation talks about the early years of AIDS and New Zealand [00:25:31] people were just so frightened and head all sorts of fears and worries and what was added task was to get the facts clearly and present them in a way that we could say no, this is people had notions that HIV was floating through the AOU we're going to catch from Captain sources or shaking hands or the swimming bolo [00:26:01] food whatever in socially [00:26:05] really tragic times as well I can I can think of one funeral where was a young person had died and the whole funeral was addressed to auntie and the sad loss of her nephew. And there was sitting the patent of 1520 years totally ignored never once mentioned never acknowledged in so wrong and so awful and so bruising that [00:26:30] this was with galvanizing [00:26:31] ourselves a bit more to to we have to do better than this. [00:26:38] And now across the Tory St. Courtney place intersection and continue walking. St. James theater, the top twins Douglas right and Michael parameter have all performed at the St. James. The theater is also the home of the Royal New Zealand ballet. One of its dancers Warren Douglas is remembered of the New Zealand aids Memorial quilt. This recording from 1993 Nikki Eddie talks about the history of the quilt. [00:27:05] The call presents the human face behind the statistics and the New Zealand initiative comes from the American names project which was founded in 1985. Our first panel was created for men called Peter Casper, and was displayed for the first time World AIDS Day, first of December 1988 in Wellington 1988 Now what is the number of quotes that you have now hear me Zealand 72 panels that represents 128 names of people we have last few words here and you see on [00:27:38] what what motivates people to do a panel to mega panel to [00:27:41] make a panel is a statement of unconditional love that it puts a human face behind the statistics of it. Here in New Zealand or internationally New Zealand is one of 27 initiatives around the world for proteins now. [00:27:59] Just beyond the city James theater is the coffee place men's toilets. Built in 1900 and 11. The Underground public toilet was part of the regular bead for anonymous six, the toilet had two sets of stairs, which led from the street level down to a number of cubicles. The site is now part of a pizzeria. And this recording, Danny talks about being arrested in the toilet in the 1970s. It was a freezing [00:28:23] cold night, absolutely freezing cold but I had removed my chances and lift them in the car. So in fact, I only had the couch and the midriff top on. I was arrested, the charge was allowing someone to perform an indecent act on me. And I was questioned and questioned and question because they wanted to know who I was with. And I had no idea of his name. And of course he was also being questioned at the same time. Did we know others was set a place to go Those were the types of things of course they knew elicits why there is submissive was that quite common for police car. I thought I've been set up by the southern men but no, he was also caught badly within separated and I don't ever remember seeing him again. [00:29:17] Now cross the Nike streets Courtney place intersection and walk into TRO Park. The park has been the gathering point for many rallies and protests. In the mid 1980s. It was the scene for large pro homosexual Law Reform rally. And this recording. Glenda Gail talks about speaking to the crowd. [00:29:36] There was a big match. And I infect spoke at the end of that it was a match that went right through the city and ended up at pigeon Park. And there were thousands of people there. And I did speak around this whole thing of freedom of you know having the right to be who we are. I mean, I think the whole thing that sometimes people don't understand or don't remember that sure the legalization of male homosexuals I think was very important. But there was also the streaming right aspect because leading up to those times people were afraid. And I can remember being really afraid. Like when you went to get a fled, you know, did you look to queer? What would they say? You know, had a and when you heard people I think the thing that I found really quite tormenting was when you heard some of these absolutely horrendous things that were said about us things like you know these people should go back to the castle where they belong or gay people should be killed. Now these are extreme views but when you hear them I mean either probably make some people run away but father's that makes makes us angry. [00:30:41] Directly opposite to our park is the Opera House. Le jack bodies opera about really premiered at the Opera House in 1998. The theater is also hosted the queen of the whole universe in 2011. A slightly queer beauty pageant. And this recording visit the queen of the whole universe makeup room. [00:31:02] Because it's such a large crew 35 Greg lanes to be exact we do the makeup progressively. So in the room we have brown black stations, we've got a basis station then you go through and heavy cheeks, and lips done and then you come to the last section which is eyes and browse [00:31:18] 35 drag queens, how long does it take? [00:31:21] Well, we've got three hours. [00:31:25] And these other things started on top of us as well. We've got muscle boys to do up we've got clear Petra, we've got somebody that needs to be made really dark so yeah, that's not just standard. So funny. [00:31:38] Um, I originally was gonna be an actor girl this year. And I was gonna be Miss Candyland. [00:31:46] Hey, y'all, money candy cane. [00:31:52] I'm gonna make you call my friends in Texas and just say what you just said, I'm going to hang up and not explain it. [00:32:01] As we begin to wrap up this tour, walk from the Opera House towards la Kiva Street. Lower Cuba Street has seen a number of rainbow related events. In the mid 1980s, there was a pro homosexual Law Reform match. And in 2015, the love parade March and civic square to cosmic Street. And this recording an onlooker to the love parade reflects on her own family experience. [00:32:25] My daughter is gay. But my son is very anti gay. He's claims to be a Christian. And so [00:32:35] it was really interesting a few years ago when they were doing that March, and my daughter and her friends were watching from a house. And she said it was quite frightening or hate that was out there. But it has changed. You know, I mean, when she was just a kid, long before she recognized that she was gay or long before I recognize that she was gay girls would measure up. She'd be [00:33:01] you know, it was just horrific. But the worst damage that has ever been done to my daughter has been done by her own family. So you know, I just hope that when these people's families can see the solidarity that they're they're not hurting anybody. They just being there just being that maybe they'll come to an acceptance No, yeah. [00:33:34] Our Cuba street is a shared pedestrian and car area. Walk to the Michael Fowler Center at the end of the street next to the town hall. The Michael Fowler center is our last tour location. It's the home venue of the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra. audiences have heard performances from New Zealand composers, such as Douglas Lilburn clear Colin Gareth fire, john Helmsley, Samuel Holloway, Alex Taylor, and jack body and this recording check body reflect on Calvin rupee during the writing of the symphonic songs of dancers and desire In Memoriam common rupee. [00:34:10] What struck me when reading comments book is The fearlessness of it that we, especially in a in generations when it was illegal to to indulge in sex with the same gender. Of course, one had to be secretive. It was very exciting, of course, and it made the the chase and the Triumph even more delicious. But the fact is, that one could be entrapped, one could get prison and I met people who had had aversion therapy, you know, making you vomit to the thought of having sex with your own kind or shock treatment. I mean, these things happened in those days. So this is the world that common grew up and look what she did. She said, I'm here. And I'm me. And like, I don't lumbered and and totally brazen, fearless, the lesson that we learn from her, that, you know, we've got one life and the worst thing we can do is is to have fears and anxieties that we have to embrace life and be who we are. [00:35:16] And so in this walk tour, thanks to all the people who've contributed to pride nz.com and thank you for taking the tour. Hide it out.

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