Anna - South

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[00:00:00] This podcast is brought to you by pride enza.com with generous support from the rule foundation. How do [00:00:08] you describe your identity? [00:00:09] Um, I don't think I really describe it. But I've only been attracted to one person in my life, and it's been a woman. And so I guess that means I'm gay, but I'm not sure. [00:00:23] When did you first become aware? [00:00:28] When I was 23 years ago? [00:00:32] What was that? Like? [00:00:37] I didn't really think about it that much to start with, because I thought my parents would be fine with it. But then suddenly, I realized that they were not cool with that, and that some other people wouldn't go with it either. And I didn't really realize that would happen, because I've never had an issue with other people being KS, what [00:00:57] kind of reactions did they get? We'll have to do realize that they weren't. [00:01:03] They didn't invite my girlfriend round for dinner or anything like that. [00:01:09] And they never talked about it. [00:01:13] And when I told them, they just said, whatever you want, what's best for you? Or something like that? But [00:01:21] I could tell they were very happy. Yeah. [00:01:25] So how do you never kind of thought that you might be affected one? Or have you thought much about kind of [00:01:32] protection before? [00:01:33] And I thought about a little bit, but because I hadn't been attracted to anyone I didn't really know. I just kind of assumed that I just hadn't met. [00:01:44] Yeah. Do you remember kind of getting any messages about [00:01:50] trans people [00:01:51] when you were younger, from people society? [00:01:55] I remember once, when I was younger, some of my parents friends. The they split up and the woman had decided she was gay. And my mom and dad didn't really socialize with them anymore. But I didn't really kind of think about it or realize what that might mean. [00:02:18] I can't really think of anything else when I was younger, I don't think I really knew much about any of it. [00:02:24] Yeah, do you think you will have like a way that it was an option to be? [00:02:28] Not for me, not until probably some form at school? And so the key youth group there? Or the legs group? [00:02:40] And I don't know, I just [00:02:44] didn't really know what it was at first. I found out later. [00:02:48] Yeah. Do you remember kind of any education about six orientation or gender identity when you're at school, like a class? Or? [00:02:57] Absolutely none. [00:03:00] wasn't really a way that it was an option other than to be straight. I didn't kind of [00:03:05] didn't really know about anything else. [00:03:08] What other kinds of reactions have you had coming out to people? Have you come up to people? [00:03:14] And you said, most people have been totally fine with it? [00:03:20] Or just not even committed? [00:03:25] There's been occasional people who have said, if that's what you want to choose for yourself, then it's your choice. And there's been a couple of people who have had issues with it. But they are now okay with that. So it's good. [00:03:48] What do you think it's like being? Again, group Listen, and Nelson, do you think it's different the other person? [00:03:55] I'm, [00:03:58] I think it might be, because [00:04:03] this, there isn't a university and Nelson. So a lot of the young people once they finish school, they leave Nelson. And so I think there's not a huge population of people between that 18 and 27. So I think being young and queer, and Nelson during that age bracket, there's not many people that you can kind of identify with or talk about your experience with [00:04:33] so much of a queer community. [00:04:38] Not really sure. [00:04:40] I think the groups for the people at school and stuff like that. It's really awesome. And I've met heaps of wonderful people through people that I've met, and Nelson, which has been really nice. And I think there are some people and Nelson but I don't know if they act as a community. I think that it's [00:05:05] a little bit more separated in it. [00:05:07] Yeah. What's your involvement been like? [00:05:13] I've been to one of their key youth camps, which was really awesome. The hood. And just meeting some people who are clear. And NASA has been really nice, being able to talk about stuff with them, and just been environment, especially when I was starting to come to terms with it, where I didn't feel like I let something slip. I was scared. It was nice. Oh, sorry. I've really appreciated that kind of stuff. [00:05:42] Yeah. Having met sense of community or being in the space. [00:05:47] And I think it's massively important to have people around you who you can talk with who know what it's like to be queer, rather than just understanding because they know someone who's queer, kind of, I think it's, it's really important to be able to connect in that way with someone who kind of, yeah, that's what it's like. Do you [00:06:11] think Nelson's kind of is a safe place? To be clear? Like, is it kind of the place where you could like, come ahead and put down the street holding hands with your partner? [00:06:21] I think so. But I'm not sure about in the schools, and [00:06:27] I haven't had any problems. And Nelson, the only thing that I've ever had was really, really funny. has had drunk person yelling at you, Tony lyst. [00:06:40] In him saying I'm a lobster, I [00:06:44] don't think that counts as abuse. [00:06:49] What do you think about the marriage equality bill that passed recently? [00:06:53] I think it is massively important for queer people to have the same rights as straight people between cuz if they don't, that's basically a signal for the government to allow discrimination. So as that filters down it just as discrimination and personal life, so I think it's massively important that the government of New Zealand supportive of equality, and hopefully that makes things a lot easier on a personal level. Yeah. [00:07:23] Have any personal meaning to [00:07:25] us? I'd like to get married. Right. [00:07:29] So yeah, it does have quite a big personal many. [00:07:33] Yeah. Unless you're interested in the kind of adoption side of that, and the adoption next episode. [00:07:39] Yeah, I think this basically important for gay people to be able to adopt kids together. [00:07:47] Because it will be important for the people who want to adopt kids together. And also as important for discrimination stuff as well. [00:07:56] Yeah. We're involved in music actors. I'm around. Like, did you have a submission? [00:08:04] And I wrote a submission. And I also [00:08:08] try to get some signatures. But when I put a paper out against the signatures, it was taken away. So I'm not quite sure what that was about. But yeah, [00:08:18] where was the paper [00:08:21] was put, it was put in the library. And I thought that was a pretty safe place, but obviously not [00:08:26] yet. So that may be so something about [00:08:29] Nelson. [00:08:32] What do you think is some of the most important issues today? [00:08:40] I can only speak for myself, because I'm not really sure about the whole community. But I definitely think that one of the things that goes on is that say, generation that's a bit older than the youth having issues with it. The generations that are younger, generally, I've seen a much more go with it, because they've grown up with it being okay. But it's kind of like the parents and their grandparents. And it still creates awkwardness. When you hang out with people who are of that generation, or especially within families, I think that families, the older generation have grown up with this idea that if the children are gay, that's going to be really hard life for them. And so it's almost like they're perpetuating that by not being okay with their children being gay, even though it is probably a lot easier now than it was when they're young. Yeah. [00:09:43] What do you think the issues going to be in the future? In 50 years? time? Okay. I'm hoping [00:09:50] that [00:09:51] would be awesome. [00:09:56] Yeah, I'm really hoping nothing. I can't see any issues, keeps going, how it's going, then. Hopefully not too much. I think we've got a long way to go with the rights of trans people and discrimination and that, and I think that [00:10:12] that's a massive thing that's lagging way behind it, it really needs to be dealt with. So [00:10:19] I'm hoping none, but I think that's probably that sort of area. Yeah. [00:10:25] Have you kind of seen things progress much in your lifetime? Or do you know much about like, the history of current anthrax, and particularly in New Zealand, what kind of things were more promote issues in the past? [00:10:39] Um, I don't know, huge amount. [00:10:44] But I know that like in the last, I'm not really sure actually know that. It's got better a lot lately. Especially since 2005. I think it was when the civil rights union stuff into late famous overnight, I'm not quite sure of it. Yeah. [00:11:07] How important [00:11:09] is kind of a rainbow politics, stuff to you. [00:11:14] Um, I think it's important and that [00:11:20] if queer and queer people do not have the same rights as heterosexual people, then there's going to be discrimination. And that's kind of where it comes from with me is that [00:11:36] I think things are important in that way. But I [00:11:40] I'm not very political person. [00:11:44] And a lot of it, yeah. [00:11:47] What do you think about the way queer and trans people are represented [00:11:50] in the media, [00:11:52] and there's not much visual [00:11:56] might be a couple of lesbians Oh, guys, but there's not. Not really, I haven't seen many trans people in the media. [00:12:07] And not many queer people either. So I think that [00:12:16] it makes a huge difference when you can, especially if you don't have people who you can connect with and things like that, it makes a huge difference when you can see that in the media. And also that you know, that straight people are watching it as well. And they will be informed, especially when it's a good representation, which I think is really important, especially within how they are. [00:12:42] Yeah, and I think that's really important to have that we need to be more. [00:12:47] Can you think of any [00:12:50] things in the media where you guys think quick act is represented? Well, [00:12:54] um, and some movies and some TV shows, but I don't really watch Hey, very much. So mostly, they've been recommendations from other queer people. I'll go get this movie out. It's got a queer character in it now, something like that. Um, and yeah, I've read a few books with characters. But it's probably [00:13:26] Yeah. Do you have a favorite book or movie? Or is there been any kind of character storyline that's really resonated with you? [00:13:39] I don't think so. Actually. [00:13:42] Most of the shows that I've seen, or the movies or whatever have been queer characters, but quite mainstream queer characters, like apart from the fact that they're queer. They're extremely mainstream and normal. And so you don't see anyone that and alternative lifestyle or anything like this, their business woman or businessman or business trends be? Not that there's actually I haven't seen any representation of trans people are not naturally a little bit. But [00:14:18] yes, I'm really [00:14:22] that much. Yeah. [00:14:23] Do you think I'm seeing lots of stereotypes of characters? [00:14:28] massively, yep. [00:14:32] On the shows that I've seen, most of them have been really girly. This being characters or really girly characters. And the trends people have been either, like, really made up with makeup or? Yeah, it's just it's not a very wide scope of people's experiences, I think I think it's quite a their [00:15:02] representation. Yeah. [00:15:04] Do you think those assumptions and stereotypes [00:15:08] kind of exists outside of the media as well, like, [00:15:11] with family and friends of people, you know, like, do they have assumptions about what? [00:15:18] I think they do have assumptions. But I think, especially with my parents generation assumptions are quite different than what's portrayed. Like, with my parents generation, I think that there's a lot of Okay, if you're gay, then you need to wear pants and you will have short here and you look like a guy. If you're a woman, or if you're a men and you're gay, then you're going to look like a woman. It's, it's Yeah, I think my parents anyway, were quite scared that I was going to stop wearing dresses. And every time my mom saw me for about two years should say, I really love a few wore a pink dress. [00:15:58] Yes. stereotypes out there. Yeah. [00:16:04] Do you feel like you're challenging those stereotypes? It's funny, because I kind of feel really self conscious when I do slightly challenge them. Even if it looks normal. Even if a straight person would dress that way. If I dress slightly boyishly. I feel slightly uncomfortable at all, no, Will someone know? Or will they think bad of me or something like that? Yeah. So sometimes I feel like I can kind of challenge it, but not really. And I'm a little bit scared of challenging and actually a [00:16:42] part of a group is kind of No, outside of the community. [00:16:47] Its cultural. [00:16:49] work, and not really anything else is specific official group that just groups of friends doing different stuff. [00:16:58] Yeah. Hey, after week. [00:17:03] Yes, unofficially. [00:17:06] But I'm not sure how everyone feels about that. I think we're fine with it. But yeah. And [00:17:14] what kind of future Do you want to stay in Nelson, like, [00:17:19] a marriage married. [00:17:22] Let's travel some more. I've just been traveling overseas. And I'd like to do some more travel. [00:17:29] I'd like to find a job that I really, really enjoy. And I'd like to get married. And I'd also like to have kids and have a house. [00:17:39] Probably a house track, though. [00:17:41] House. Yeah. [00:17:46] generally have a lot of fun. [00:17:49] If you could give one piece of advice to young people coming up next, and listen to this in the future, what would it be? [00:18:00] connect with other people who are going to understand you. So come to Kenya and connect with people, even if you only come once and just hang out with people outside of the group or whatever, just differently, make sure that you have people around you who are supportive and caring, and I can understand what you're going through. And I going to just be there for you. Yeah, it's massively important. Especially if you run into anything that makes you feel uncomfortable, then, you know, you've got somewhere to go that people were going to be fine with whatever your Yeah. [00:18:39] Do you think there's much support for currencies and Zealand? [00:18:45] Probably not as much as the needs to be. And we probably have a lot more [00:18:52] especially education in schools and sports groups and stuff like that. I think that especially the teachers and the principles in the sport coaches and all that need to get on board and absolutely have a zero tolerance to anything that's clear or transphobic. That needs to be created from the top down and the bottom half is supportive environments, basically. Because I don't think there's enough of that. Yeah. [00:19:26] What's your favorite thing about doing it? [00:19:30] I get to wear my girlfriend's clouds. [00:19:34] No, that's not [00:19:42] I don't know. I [00:19:47] don't know if there's anything particularly special about it.

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