Participants - Shift hui 2015

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[00:00:00] This program is brought to you by pride nz.com. [00:00:05] My name is Ray me. I'm from Oakland, specifically medical area, South Oakland. [00:00:11] How did you find out about the Hawaii this year, [00:00:15] I was actually contacted by the group called remember collective. So it was I was the youthfulness that they had last year. That was my first like event within our community that I attended. I was asked to come to this one, as well see, [00:00:31] what are some of your favorite things [00:00:34] about the series? I think it was really, it was really great how everyone was so open and welcoming, and everyone was like, I feel like we all benefited in some way or another by learning from each other. And I think that it's really important that we continue to share our stories to, you know, make things better for future generations. [00:00:56] If there was anything you'd like to talk to Hey, to let people know about who is like maybe why to come to them. For example, what would you say? [00:01:08] I would say that it's definitely an experience like before I ever attended anything like this, like, I don't think anyone could have explained to me the feeling like it is a really that is a really good warm welcoming feeling. I just tried to explain that just a you know, it's one of those things where you have to experience it for yourself you know, it's if you feel like you know, you're interested in these sort of things and want to see like minded open people then I recommend that you should attend. Yeah, my name is Isha. [00:01:37] And how do you identify yourself [00:01:39] identify struggling to [00:01:42] worry about see from and how'd you hear about this? [00:01:46] So I'm from South Auckland, and men Chrissy true. And I heard about the way through the organization remember collective has had to work with him. [00:02:00] Indeed, when you came to this Hurry, what did you expect? [00:02:05] Um, I really didn't know what to expect, because it's [00:02:10] it's my first week. [00:02:14] And it was also my first time out of Oakland. So like I was expecting, I don't know exactly what I was expecting. I just knew that I was going to be around like minded people. And I was just really excited about a lot of [00:02:27] people have talked about at a hurry. [00:02:29] Sometimes you come here and walls between people that usually exists. So the outside, just kind of go away in here really fast, and that you get to meet people. Do you agree with that? or disagree? And do you have any experiences with that? At this hurry? Um, [00:02:51] well, [00:02:52] for me, personally, I don't. [00:02:56] I try not to put up walls, I try. And I always keep an open mind. And I'm not one to listen to gossip and stuff like that. I'm really keen to meet everyone and see how they are. And so this week has, has been for me a really safe place. And we can just come with our opinions [00:03:20] and not create so like conflict. [00:03:26] Which is, and I know it sounds cheesy, which is free to, you know, be us. [00:03:31] Hi, what's your name? [00:03:34] My name is Bianca. And I'm 14 and I'm from Oakland. [00:03:37] And how would you identify yourself? [00:03:41] identify as a transgendered woman? So from male to female? [00:03:46] whereabouts are you from? And how did you find out about this hurry. [00:03:50] So like I said, I'm from Oakland, but I'm from the south of Oakland from a little town called Manitoba. And I'm involved in it. And I'm actually one of the leaders crews for organization we're working with Coach [00:04:06] and I came attorney [00:04:08] at this hurry so far, what has been one of your favorite experiences [00:04:18] for being completely on earth? And the workshop for amazing is what I mean? Like, I got to learn so much more about different aspects of everything around the LGBT community. [00:04:31] Is this your first Terry? [00:04:33] I've been to the top way. And clench. And I mean, how attacks happen with bank. And it was cold. It was more laid back than this. So there wasn't as much work so Citrix etc. Culturally, with an my opinion, African to be completely honest, really organized. Compared to that for me, like, I feel like everything was just turn, turn, turn turn to [00:05:07] have you [00:05:08] found yourself maybe getting an experience here that others might like to know, say, like, meeting somebody that you didn't expect to meet that you had a lot in common with? Or maybe getting closer to somebody already did. [00:05:25] Hardly I like, Yeah. [00:05:30] Like I met [00:05:33] from Tommy Nelson, and we just showed a lot like, we sort of had similar goals in life. Like hearing her side of the story. Yeah. [00:05:46] And what about the workshops? Can you maybe talk about an experience from there? [00:05:52] At the workshops, it's pretty much stuff I've heard before. But I mean, in terms of the way they presented, and was a little bit boring from your family? Yeah, it was just like FX FX FX. To me, like it was just really boring. But like, at the same time, I was really informative. [00:06:15] Somebody wasn't sure about come into, and they were going to talk to you, what would you say to them, [00:06:24] I would encourage them to come because I mean, [00:06:28] deep down like with every person who's leaving you, sort of different to come because there's like some Sufi kit that you don't like, even if it's something loose to take away something with you. But for myself, I'm taking away new meanings, definitions, skills, the way to keep myself safe condones. [00:06:56] Hey there, what's your name? My name is PW? And how would you identify yourself? [00:07:03] What most people would [00:07:07] to do with pronounce it would go by a male pronouns, I would go through male pronouns. Otherwise, I'm identifiers also for female. [00:07:17] And we're about so you found and how did you find out about this hurry. [00:07:21] I'm from Brooklyn, and South Auckland, many of you are so many and a half hours. And I heard about this way through my organization, it was an awesome opportunity that I heard about, to come and engage with the Wellington, I know or family and to hear their voices and to be a part of the discussion with the youth around what their concerns are the opinions and what the [00:07:51] division is for the future. So [00:07:54] I heard about it through my organization, and I was really excited to come and totally my experience. [00:08:01] Yeah. Do you want to describe your organization briefly? [00:08:04] Yeah. So um, I come from an organization called village collective, and where the Pacific sexual health organization administers, funded by the Ministry of Health. Our role in the community is to deliver sessions and schools, develop resources, and engage with the community around education and bringing awareness to how to be safe and build relationships, and so on, and so on. So it's a whole lot of it's quite a holistic approach that we have towards sexual health. [00:08:44] But it's all about the well being of all of our young people at the end of the day. Yeah. Do you [00:08:48] find some of your goals at your organization are in line somewhat with this hurry? [00:08:55] Absolutely. Yeah. Judging from the topics that were discussed, totally aligned with, with what our goals are as an organization, and it just gave us that reassurance will say that we are going in the right track. From being here at the whole, he gave us that reassurance that yes, we should continue to grow in this area, because young people still [00:09:20] have concerns over this in that in this in it. So [00:09:24] is this your first show you've been to? [00:09:26] This is my first shift we I've been to actually [00:09:33] beforehand, which is earlier this year, but this is my first shift to a young [00:09:38] Would you like to maybe talk about the differences between the hurry? [00:09:43] The differences between the hoodies, I think the glue actually focuses solely on the decolonization of our people. [00:09:53] And focuses solely on minorities [00:09:57] within sexuality, health, background, those who migrate here to the country, so it was a it was just a general. [00:10:11] I was I was talking about the general [00:10:14] diversities in our country, and how we could be dedicated to each other. Whereas I feel the shift to he focuses on overall community, I remember community and how we can better serve identity people to be the the leading force for our next generation. Yeah, what that's definitely what I got from this week was those empowering our young people to be bigger and better in the future? [00:10:43] Okay, I live in Wellington, and I work and copy coast at a youth health center. [00:10:51] And I heard about the holy through Tabby and email, because I'm connected to inside out through a database psyches. And I'll see it all by an email. [00:11:03] Why did you think it was important for to bring yourself here. [00:11:12] And my job, I have the privilege of working full time as a counselor, [00:11:19] but also, [00:11:21] I facilitate [00:11:24] a non he chose social hub, which is, we are thought to be really important essential to allow these young people an opportunity to meet other people from the region and feel this isolated and alone. And that's why I wanted to mainly bring them and I want you to come along and be a value of possible instead of my counselor Oh, to support at the end people. So that's why sort of brought myself as a counselor, and for the young people for an opportunity to explore who they are. [00:11:51] If you were to talk about one thing at this hurry that you found valuable. [00:11:57] What would that be? [00:12:00] For myself as a 30 year olds, coming as the count as a counselor to support young people. What I personally took out of it was a real authentic, an authentic sense of the struggles that young people go through firsthand, I witnessed, and I was a part of privileged to be part of some really tough, tough moments for these young people from panic attacks to wanting to self harm to wanting to give up because of how triggering some of this stuff was in a way of realizing how hard they live feels. And so as a counselor, I've taken out the sense of humbled and a wake up call to remind me maybe of what it's like, in action for these young people go through it because often as a counselor, you get, you get to see them after the fact after the panic attack go after the cell phone. But this was a really eye opening, confronting, look into what young people actually go through. That's what I personally go through. Do you want to know what I think the young people in the group went through or got out of it or just me? [00:13:10] You can talk a bit about that. But I would like to hear your own experiences, mostly, [00:13:16] I guess from our next, okay, I'll just stick to my own experiences as the thing I got out of this was fitting like as a, as a slightly older, young, gay, gay, gay person in the community, I felt like I was able to feel a part of something bigger part of a community because I felt also quite disjointed from the community because of my own fears and worries sometimes. So coming here is allowed me to feel connected again, in a way of other like minded young adults or adults, to have a similar purpose about supporting the people that are coming after us that they are can use some of our wisdom and guidance to heal to get to to find out find a path that is authentic, true healing. Yeah, just, I guess it's just also for me about networking, feeling like I've got a place that I fit into as an older person as well. So that was really supportive. [00:14:11] And one final question, if somebody wasn't sure about whether they should go to a hurry, or not, most likely a young person, I guess, what would you tell them, [00:14:24] I would challenge all the thoughts around why they don't want to come and sort of settle there and kind of, to, to, to ring up to ring up and talk to one of the organizers of the Hawaii to have a personal talk or meet them in person. And then so you can actually have a chance if you need to, if it's really scary, to just speak out some of the words you've got, whether it's about that you take medication, you don't know if you can take it or I can't eat certain foods on, I don't like sleeping in with other people. Speak it out, name it with them, because the Hawaii organizers will be able to help Listen, by reassuring you by giving you information because knowledge is power. And if we actually laid out our fears, we have a chance to actually see if they actually are real or if it's just us like catastrophizing, making it bigger than it is in our minds really good at that. So yeah, just asking your other young people that you may possibly know that are going and if you don't, if you're new to this, just ring up the organizers, send them an email, get them to call you back and get them through the job, which is to support you and making a choice that's safe, and being really clear. So with some of the things you struggle with, so that they can know how to look up to you during the Hawaii, because they will have supportive people there, they should have supportive people there to to help you through help you through some of the challenges because that's the point. We're not all perfect. We all have our colorful backgrounds and our issues that we go through. And it's about letting people know how to support so that they can and they will want to that's been that's what I've seen this movie that I've just been to. And that's been really amazing. [00:16:00] Hi there, what's your name? And how do you identify yourself? [00:16:04] sky? Just a trans man. [00:16:08] And we're about to you from? And how did you find out about this hurry? [00:16:13] currently living in Christchurch, and Hawaii [00:16:19] via Facebook just [00:16:21] randomly posted on Facebook, my check that out? You know, [00:16:25] have you experienced previous hurry before? [00:16:28] I was only two years ago here? Yeah. [00:16:32] How did you find this to be compared to the hurry two years ago? [00:16:37] I knew what I was coming in for this time, like last time, it was gonna be a whole new experience. [00:16:44] Very similar, but a lot less sleep this time than last time. [00:16:50] And it's nice to see a little bit younger faces that I haven't met before. [00:16:55] How would you find the differences coming in a couple of years older been last time. [00:17:03] I feel a lot older than everyone now. [00:17:06] Instead of being about the same age as everyone, everyone hit most people here at Sloan high school. I left high school three years ago. So it's kind of funny to hit in talking about high school and then I have struggled to remember High School. Yeah, it's nice posse on the wisdom kind of thing. So they have knowledge and they have knowledge this teaching me. [00:17:29] Did you make any connections with many people at this hurry that you hadn't previously met before? [00:17:36] A lot of people I tried when they come not to go into the table? I know. Because you know, there's only so much I already know them. You know this kind of that level? Yeah, I already know you. So go meet someone who I don't know, as you learn more about them. But it was interesting to hear different people's perspective. Most of the queer stories I've heard have been from white people. Although I grew up in a very Ireland populated area, I didn't talk to them a lot. And going through school with my friends are white. So getting that kind of side of the story [00:18:08] kind of go. Okay, one final question. If somebody, particularly a youth was really excited or worried about coming to Hawaii, and they didn't really know what it was like, how would you encourage them? [00:18:23] It's one of the most amazing experiences for a young person, like you're coming into a space where you're no longer the minority. Like, here being sis or straight is kind of the at the abnormality. And yeah, it's really supportive space. No one judges your expects anything from you, you're just you, and free to be who you want to be. [00:18:50] I'm Jane, and I'm gay. [00:18:54] whereabouts are you from? And how did you find out about the story? [00:18:58] Finally, and I found out about so remember use, I was asked to come along by one of the members? [00:19:06] Why did you decide that it was important? [00:19:09] Because it was about young people about the seven spotlight inspiring communities. So I thought it'd be quite cool to learn about and those are real stories and stuff. So as a recorded call to come along and like listen to other people and gain knowledge to bring back take back to family and [00:19:27] you say it's a basic fun today? Do you think there was anything that you will be taking back to today? And what might that be probably more about [00:19:37] different cultures and how we can identify them and work with them as well as different gender identities and sexualities? Because there's stuff that I didn't know. And I'd be quite nice to, to share what I now know with people who may be pushing your own identity still [00:19:55] coming into this space, have you? Did you know what to expect had you been to before, [00:20:02] I've been to the facilitator training for member youth. So I knew a little bit about what they're like. But this is definitely a lot more engaging as a lot more happening. More people quite a lot larger. And those workshops are a lot more intense either. But more. There's really exciting, so much to learn. [00:20:24] If there was one main highlight or example, say like a workshop or meeting a certain person, [00:20:30] what might that be? [00:20:34] I'll probably say just like meeting new people, especially people who had gender or sexual identities that were new to me, and like being able to find out more about them and how they felt with like, with them. And also, just like all the workshops in general, were really inspiring. Like, they just had key features that just stood out. I'm like some of them. I was just like learning, like, the way there was discussions around the mic. People could, like Express, like, express their ideas and freedom to us. And it was just quite nice to like, share those experiences. [00:21:11] If there was somebody not quite sure about commenter Hurry, what would you share about the hurry that might change the mind. [00:21:20] The fact that it's so everyone so equal is no minorities, everybody can feel good about themselves and express who they are without fear of judgments. And they can also learn so much as just so much to learn here. Unlike on the community, when like, when you're not in town, for example, there's a lot less to look like it's harder to find information. Whereas here, it's all there. It's all in front of you. And you have real life experiences around like going on like incident and finding examples. That's the stuff so you can actually see it for yourself. [00:21:54] Hi there. What's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [00:21:59] My name is Scott in and identify as male. [00:22:01] Is this your first hurry? [00:22:03] Now I went to Patrick [00:22:04] Corey a few years back. Can you maybe point out some of the differences between this Hurry and the previous one? [00:22:12] Mostly the people? Like there's a lot less people here this year. But it didn't really detract from the overall experience. It just made it a bit more feel a bit more like communal, almost? Yeah. [00:22:24] Did you get to make some connections with new people while you're here? [00:22:28] Yeah, I made quite a few new friends. It was really good. [00:22:31] Could you tell me maybe an example of somebody that you found some something in common with? I'm [00:22:38] home with when we first got here, I ended up bonding over the general awkwardness after the greeting with one of the two O'Connor's who ended up being the top corner of my group. So [00:22:49] there was that [00:22:51] talking about this hurry. We had so many different workshops and activities and things. And it can be kind of overwhelming. But do still think you managed to take away something from all the time that you're here. [00:23:06] Yeah, definitely feel like I've managed to take something away. Like there was a lot of like new information just from the workshops in there. But then there's just a general, like sense of knowing more people are in similar situations. And just that in itself is really nice. One my workshop that I really, really enjoyed was this one that we actually did Morgan's workshop, like on gender and sexuality that was really, really interesting. And like, I knew a lot of the stuff that we talked about, but there was still like a few like new that new things and like new terms and stuff that I learned it was really good. [00:23:41] And how long do you think that you've been in the community of discussing sexuality? agenda? Six? [00:23:49] Probably like around two, two and a half years now, I guess. Yeah. [00:23:57] Do you think it's an evil learning process? Definitely. Yeah. And one final question, if somebody wasn't sure about come into a hurry, and they didn't really know what to expect. What would you tell them? [00:24:12] Well, honestly, for Iran, it's really, really awkward at first, but it doesn't, it takes like not long at all to get over the general awkwardness and you just find that everyone here is really kind and accepting no matter with who you are. They just kind of there and don't really care. They just like you for who you are. It's really great. It's just an overall sense of community. That's amazing. [00:24:34] Hey, the What's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [00:24:39] Kara? My name's me. I'm a multi trans woman, analyst. [00:24:44] And how did you find out about this? [00:24:48] And today, the organizer invited me to come down to speak on a panel. And so that's how I found out about it. And it's, like, managed to get all the way down to panico for [00:24:56] it. And where did you come from? I live [00:24:58] in Tamaki. So was a bit of a trip down. [00:25:03] Have you been to any previous period before? [00:25:06] Yeah, yeah. I've been halfway and I sort of helped out with that organization for glitch. And earlier this year, [00:25:15] what are some big differences you found between the story and hurry talk is hot Hurry and glitch. [00:25:22] I'm obviously this is a youth Hawaii. So I'm the demographic Obviously, I'm a lot more young people, which is interesting. And it's really cool to see like a lot of young people who honestly know like a lot more about, like queer stuff than I did when I was there, he was always really interesting to see. [00:25:40] Who is always a really interesting place to be. [00:25:44] It can be a little stressful being away from home. And you know, with all the people who don't know that, like Arizona have gone to Hawaii always ended up making friends with a lot of people. And so I definitely don't think that if you are apprehensive about going to Hawaii, I definitely think there's a lot of value in doing it. [00:25:58] Any [00:26:01] awesome connections or moments that you've had at this, or you might like to [00:26:05] share. Um, [00:26:07] yeah, just bonding with people who are new on the internet before this. And making jokes that their experience is really nice. Um, but it's just like, we've actually quite quite a small country. And so a lot of us sort of tangentially will know each other already. And so many others have said like this and going to cities other than my own to meet people who I know, but don't live there is really great. [00:26:32] Hi, there. What's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [00:26:35] My name is may not and I would identify myself as young trans men. [00:26:42] Yeah. And where you come from? [00:26:45] I've come from Auckland. [00:26:47] And how did you find out about this hurry? [00:26:51] I first found out about this Hawaii. I'm from my friend VE who is one of the volunteer organizers. [00:26:59] Why did you think it was important for you to be here? [00:27:02] Well, initially, I was just my friend asked me if I'd like to come and I, I didn't really know much about it, or what was going to happen. But they kind of explained a little bit about what was going to go down at the hoe and it sounded quite swell. And I was like, Oh, cool. Then when I got here, I ended up learning a lot more than I realized I would. [00:27:23] So I noticed that you came in a bit late. How did you feel coming in midway? Did you still feel welcome? Or was a bit different? or? [00:27:31] Yeah, I definitely still felt welcome. Um, I was quite nervous, because I didn't know many people that as soon as I got [00:27:40] here, [00:27:42] I just like I managed to meet a lot of friends. And [00:27:46] that was really nice. [00:27:48] Did you manage to make it to any of the workshops? [00:27:51] I Yeah, I did. I made it to a few. I think maybe three or four. Those are really cool. It was pretty red hearing from people within the community who like not only do they identify the square or amongst the not only they part of the GOP TQ community, but they also face other adversity. So they still experience challenges within our community, which I found that really interesting and kind of put things into perspective for me, but more. [00:28:26] Could you talk about some of those challenges that you heard about? [00:28:30] Yeah, I guess just, um, particularly people from different cultural backgrounds. [00:28:37] I really liked one of the speakers to something they brought up that kind of I found interesting was because they were into sex. And I thought, and just some of the things I said, I really believed in and sounded really important, like, you know, surgery, being able to? Yeah, just, there was some things I was like, Wow, that is so true. And I can't believe things still this way. And we have, I don't know, we, there's a lot of progression to be made, I guess, in all realms of many different realms. [00:29:18] And say, what, how would you describe a hurry to somebody that had absolutely no knowledge, but we're thinking about coming. [00:29:27] I would say it's a really great opportunity, not only to meet a lot of different people and make a lot of new friends, but also to just build, you know, like, you build connections, and also you get to kind of, like, I'm definitely going to walk away from this feeling really fortunate that I've, you know, I'm in my 20s, but I am surrounded by a supportive family, friends, and I remember being young and it was really hard, but at the same time, I don't know I'd like Personally, I just feel really fortunate. Because I think I'm like, compared to where I've been, I'm in a good place now. So I think, but I think it's also [00:30:22] it's, it's quite special to be around people who are a lot like you and also a lot of different because [00:30:30] I don't know, it feels very homely. And it it's, there's definitely a strong feeling of belonging, I think that comes along with it. [00:30:39] My name is James, I would [00:30:43] identify myself as gender neutral. [00:30:46] When you come into this Hurry, what did you expect? I expected [00:30:53] to be [00:30:57] entertained, [00:31:00] was [00:31:02] what was some of the things that you thought were valuable from this OE that you might remember for a long time I'm [00:31:10] witnessing, seeing a lot of sad jokes coming in. First fam. Coming probably coming from areas that are live with families that you Ryan saying them completely open up without this was really rewarding for me. [00:31:26] If you were invited to know who in the future, do you think you would come? And would you try to bring others along that might need it? [00:31:39] Definitely, if I was available, [00:31:44] I don't know who I would invite. [00:31:47] Most of the people that I know won't come. So [00:31:51] say you were confronted with somebody that you that was quite young, but really wanted to come to the hurry but had some fears. What do you think that they should know about a hurry to kind of like, let them know that it's okay to be here. [00:32:09] Just let them know that this way, support all around them. And they'll be amongst people that are the same as the more identify with what they're going through. And just let them know that I could help them [00:32:21] a lot. [00:32:23] And my name is Jess. [00:32:27] I'm transforming. [00:32:31] I'm [00:32:34] androgynous, or Butch, [00:32:37] which I guess is my gender expression presentation. [00:32:42] And wherever you come from and how you heard about this movie [00:32:49] I grew up in Hamilton spent most of my life there but I live in Wellington now. And I'm Toby's partner and Tabby is one of the people that organizers so that's how I heard about it. [00:33:02] Have you been to many previous hurry before this one? [00:33:07] I've been to a couple we're not peeps, but [00:33:11] um, do you want to talk about what they were and maybe some of the differences between this one and any previous ones? [00:33:19] Sure. I think the first we went to was an Tamika Makoto, which was a butch family. Which was not really a youth hurry. So it's quite different in that way. And it was more around Butch film identities. And then maybe the second one I went to was Patuakhali, which is, yeah, two years ago, from now organized by the same people, as this one, like I said, was quite similar and a lot of ways in terms of being a queer youth hurry in the same space as this. [00:34:05] drawing upon all of the workshops that you might have attended all of the people that you've talked to the connections you've made, Can you think of any examples that you might take away that you might remember for a long time? [00:34:19] I think just all of the openness that people have shared, [00:34:27] like, personal stuff. [00:34:31] I spoke on one of the panels, which was us quite nervous about beforehand, but I'm really happy with how it went. So yeah, I guess I feel but more bitter about public speaking since that. [00:34:48] Yeah. And just [00:34:51] I think the attack attack we who workshop was [00:34:57] just really cool. [00:35:01] Yeah, I feel like I learned a lot from it. [00:35:05] Thank you. And one last question. If there was somebody, maybe quite young, maybe not. And they were thinking about coming into a hurry. But they're quite wide, they have some fears. How would you describe a hurry to them to make them know that it's okay? [00:35:25] I'd say that it's just a really welcoming space. It's a space where people don't assume anything about you. Or your kind of participation and have an activities is optional. So you can kind of do what you want. Yeah, and you'll meet amazing people who will, you know, a really warm, and just kind of want to hear your stuff, if you want to share it. Yeah. [00:35:56] Hi, there. What's your name? And how would you identify it yourself? [00:36:01] I'm Jay, also known as Joseph and pen sexual. [00:36:05] And wherever you come from, [00:36:08] I've come from Mongolia, which is in the North Island. [00:36:11] How did you find out about this [00:36:12] hurry. Tabby came to my youth group a couple years ago, and she told me about the one a couple years ago. And since then, I've just been waiting to come to this one as well. So kind of the last one. [00:36:26] The last one, Patrick, who? Are there any big differences you found between this one and the previous one? [00:36:33] Um, I was kind of sick this one. So I didn't really notice a lot of changes. But yeah, it was pretty. It was really good. I like this one, as well. It was a lot more people. Because I didn't know. [00:36:47] How would you describe the hallway to somebody that has no idea and is thinking about coming? [00:36:53] It's a really safe environment. And it's really, really awesome to make friends and such, for someone who's in a diverse, this goal and stuff like that. So [00:37:03] yeah. Why do you think people keep coming back over and over? [00:37:07] Because it's safe, and it's really fun, and people feel safe here. And they can be themselves? Could you describe a bit about why people feel safe, and place like this? People are friendly here and they don't judge you like they would? Like other people would anywhere else. Makes you feel comfortable and being Sophia. [00:37:30] Hi, I'm Kate. I am a gender fluid, bisexual. [00:37:34] And I'm Abby, and bisexual. [00:37:37] And where are you guys from? And how did you hear about this? [00:37:42] I'm from Whitby or Wellington region. And I go to school up in cavity college. And so after talking to the counselors there, I joined into project youth like the KYS support group thing. And we got told about this who he Andre who runs project youth, and we all came down. So that's how, [00:38:05] you know pretty much the same. I just joined project youth with Kate and found out about it there. [00:38:12] And I'm also from what [00:38:14] have you guys been to any previous movie before? [00:38:17] I have never been to a previous series? This is my [00:38:21] new This is my first. [00:38:23] So coming into the space for the first time. Obviously, you've never been to this man I and [00:38:32] what were you expecting? And were you expectations changed at all? [00:38:37] I have no idea what I was expecting. I was almost expecting it to basically just be school camp but full of queer people, which I kind of was it was just the Novi queer school camp. But it was really great because it got intensive. Sometimes it was really emotional. But I really loved it. Like, I wouldn't have changed coming for anything. So [00:39:06] yeah, I wasn't sure what to expect. I wasn't entirely sure why I was even going. But I'm glad I did. Because I met so many amazing people. And it's just such a good time. [00:39:17] It was one moment or maybe connection that you've made at this hurry that you think resonated with you that you will remember for a long time. What might that be? [00:39:28] Good, I can't think for a moment. But I'm [00:39:33] even just becoming friends with fe one of the people who came here, because they're also gender fluid. But they're, you know, owning it the older than me and their parents. But it's just, it's so cool. Because it was almost like she was looking out for me. And it made me feel really protected in there. Awesome. So [00:40:05] probably have to say, the talent show, because we just got such a deep insight into what some people do, and how they live their lives and what they're good at. And it was just [00:40:14] really cool. [00:40:17] Another Christian, say if you meet somebody quite young, and they weren't really sure about kind of who he is or not, you know, they're quite wide, they have some fears. How would you describe the hood them to kind of make them feel like, yeah, this is something I should I should go through. [00:40:35] Um, [00:40:37] I'd have to just really say that [00:40:43] this is just like a great voting experience. Because it can get a bit scary, but I mean, like, we even like adopted someone here, like a 17 year old gender queer kid. Because they were quite scared about coming here. But we adopted them. And they had a great time here. Like it was just such a great building experience for like, confidence and knowing who you are, like being able to come to this thing and seeing a whole bunch of other people that won't make assumptions about what you are. [00:41:22] Yeah, do you think that's quite different from the outside world? [00:41:25] It really is, you know, coming into a place where everybody else is in some way minority. It's quite a connection, because out there. It's a very standard hetero normative world. [00:41:41] I've probably described it as like a weekend, which sort of creates a community of those of queer people that you can just feel safe with and make loads of new friends. And just be yourself around them. It's great. [00:41:56] Do you think it's easy to make connections at a high? [00:42:00] Not start with the as soon as like, everyone starts opening up, then you just sort of gravitate towards people. And it becomes really easy to make friends? [00:42:11] And would you guys be down for a hurry? in the future? [00:42:15] Hell yeah. bring you to say, [00:42:18] I don't know exactly what else to say. [00:42:21] My name is Tom and identify as theme that's my primary. [00:42:28] And where are you from? And how did you find out about this? [00:42:32] I'm originally from place code, Bry Valley and Marlborough. Basically, I live in Wellington at the moment. And I found out about it because I was I'm part of the Parliament side. And I'm was part of the organizing committee. So I've kind of been kind of known about it since before it even began organizing. So yeah. [00:42:51] Coming to this Hawaii, what did you expect? And we're to where any of your expectations wrong or did anything change? [00:43:02] Um, I've been to a few hurry before, so I kind of knew what to expect was different was [00:43:09] having [00:43:11] more young people get this time the difference that made that I definitely notice. They actually do have to change things up a bit when you have that many people. And so that's a good learning thing we need to learn on the next time [00:43:25] around [00:43:26] how to manage that. But [00:43:30] it was Yeah, it was amazing. [00:43:31] So I, [00:43:32] I expected it to be awesome and intense and all these things. And it was it was great. [00:43:36] Yeah. Um, [00:43:38] do you think having more young people brought something new to the hurry in a positive way as well? [00:43:45] Yeah, I did. And I think another another thing about all these young people is that I'm quite sure we have had them previously, a lot of young people that already know each other. But this was a really big group of people. And most of them didn't know each other. And it was from a lot of things from places. So that was a really, really amazing seeing, I'm seeing kind of what it's like, with a lot of people making friends that I didn't know, and for some people that had come come by themselves from small places. And yeah, saying that. That was amazing. So having a lot of people here was actually really awesome. And having the people from Oakland, rainbow, village collective and health center stuff that we're having them here was extra special, awesome. [00:44:31] Do you have a moment, or maybe a connection that really stuck out to during this time at topic too long, and that I that kind of resonated that you will hopefully remember for a while. Um, [00:44:48] I know, because it's like, when you're part of the organizing committee, like it's so overwhelming that it's like, you don't even have time to really think about anything, or like, kind of pick up on this stuff very well, until after, bye, I have to say one of the highlights for me was, um, so in the Pacific workshop, all the workshops are amazing. But it was started off with an incredible poem, or performance pace by PETA. And I just cry like an edia. And it was, it was really phenomenal. And I think, I think I was saying to him that it was really awesome having. Because Yeah, we all connect, and we all learn in different ways, it was really amazing to have a creative pace around identity and expression and things like that, um, as part of this, because I feel like there's a really important way for a lot of people to connect to these things, like I made myself like, you know, that's what got me ugly crying, like in the audience. But that was phenomenal. [00:45:39] So yeah. And one final question. If there was a young person or not a person, and they were really excited about coming into a hurry, they didn't really know what took speaks. How would you describe it to them, or dispel some of the fears? [00:45:59] Who [00:46:00] I would describe, like what sort of speak from a Hawaii is basically. [00:46:07] So I think it's a really important safe space in the way that it's a place where people can come and basically play with people like them in different the name, and it's a space where they can be, can explore who they are, and they can maybe be able to express parts of that, that they often aren't able to or don't feel safe to. [00:46:32] Outside of the space. And like some key words about how aids would be like, like this. [00:46:40] Exciting full on meeting people learning a lot of very, quite intense I think I found them quite intense. But I think it's like those things where it's so it's quite full on during the weekend, and then you leave and you're just like, wow, like once you've had a chance to reflect you like it's it's really special and really amazing. [00:47:01] I don't know what kind of Missy would be about it. [00:47:07] Maybe a one a month, is this just for [00:47:12] Korea trends is that it's just for everyone, but community. It's for everyone. [00:47:17] Strike people, [00:47:18] stina people, you know, [00:47:22] you know, we want to, we want to offer that space to everybody. So there's one. [00:47:28] Hi, there. What's your name? And how do you identify yourself? [00:47:33] Hi, my name is Bella, and I'm a transgender female. [00:47:37] Where are you from? And how did you hear about this hurry? [00:47:41] I'm from Wellington. And I heard about the Hawaii because heavy was like, Hey, would you like to help organize a Hawaii? And I was like, Yes, please, attends amazing. And [00:47:53] I know that you've been to previous hurry before? What did you expect? [00:47:59] coming into this, Hey, I just wanted to make sure that some of the smaller things that haven't run so smoothly other hallways, we're running a little bit better here. And I think that they were just like simple things, I kind of get a more diverse range of workshops, and trying to make sure that the topics that we talked about on the same topics that you hear every single Hawaii, like they're really different topics he wouldn't talk about, and talked about it other hobbies. So like the minorities panel and Pacific Island panel, and even the Asian workshop, like those are three things. even seen it a workshop before. So that was really good. And I'm really glad that we managed to get that diversity, diversity into it. [00:48:41] Were there any major key differences between this hurry? [00:48:46] Um, I think [00:48:47] that for me, this whole he was very, very big compared to other hoods that I've been to like have been the big boys, but they've normally had a lot of lot more funding and a lot more support, like from an organizing committee. Where's the festival, we had a small organizing committee and we we had good funding, but we didn't have like a huge amount of funding. And so for us to get such a huge turnout, I think is incredible in itself. So that was probably one of the big key differences with this. How many [00:49:17] of you are confronted with somebody, maybe young, many old, they had never been to the hoop before. quite worried about coming about, say meeting people, how would you describe what it is coming into a hurry and making connections. [00:49:35] And I didn't come into a hurry. You're gonna meet new people, it's just expected, you know, you'll sit down for so many years, introduce yourself or you stand up for food and food, always a good topic to like, discuss. And even just like waiting in the car pack for poverty is always like, it's always like these small opportunities where you can't just stand there and look awkward, we could just say hello to the person next to you. And so even if you're like really shy, there's always someone who's not and they'll want to introduce themselves. So if you're coming in, you're like nervous to meet new people you shouldn't make because there's always going to be someone who just introduce themselves to you anyway. And you can build up connections with other people and grow your confidence and stuff. So [00:50:16] hey, the What's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [00:50:21] Hi, I'm JR identifies gender fluid on the a romantic spectrum and policy show? [00:50:29] How did you find out about this hurry? And where did you come from to get here. [00:50:34] And I found out about it through my the queer youth group that I go to unquote, cool. goes out the central group and I live here in Wellington. So I just [00:50:45] walked here. [00:50:47] Is it your first OES? [00:50:50] Coming into the space? What did you expect? [00:50:53] Um, I knew a couple of people. So I'm kind of through the group I go to are a couple of people from school. But I don't really know if I had any expectations for I just kind of wanted to try something new and photo be a good way to kind of [00:51:11] have a go at, like, [00:51:13] seeing what other people would think of me being myself. [00:51:17] And do you think that you were able to be yourself at this place? Yeah, definitely. Can you give an example of say, how you able to be yourself at this hurry. [00:51:28] I'm just people using right pronouns, and my name. So I must be please my birth name. outside of just in general, people just call me by my name. And so they didn't do that here. Right? pronouns, just cool bunch of people who are pretty accepting of anything, really? [00:51:49] And would you be interested in a future hurry? Yeah, definitely. So coming from that, if you talk to somebody that hadn't been to Hawaii before, what would you say to them, if they were, like, really unsure about whether they come or not? [00:52:06] Um, I'd say that it's definitely an experience that you want to have. And it's an amazing group of people who come and it's an amazing environment, and these really, really awesome workshops that are around and it's just a generally really cool thing to do and participate in. [00:52:23] My name is very Pitt, and I identify as a queer trans man. [00:52:28] And how did you hear about this hurry? And where did you come from to get here today? [00:52:36] I heard about the Hawaii via Tabby intan. Home very good friends with and I've been meaning to get to Wellington. And I've missed the last few who is. So I thought, well, I'll kill two birds with one stone, come out to Wellington, see them and attend and have a fantastic OE. So I came all the way up from Christchurch. [00:52:59] What come into the hurry? What did you expect? And we're in your expectations. But, you know, raw? [00:53:09] I mean, I've been to Tony's before, I think so I know the deal. I know that they're really emotionally draining and like super intense. And the past two times have come as a youth. And this time, because I'm 26. And sort of post transition, I really wanted to give back to the, you know, what the who is given to me. So I chose to go for a volunteer facilitator slash group leader position. So I didn't really know what to expect, because I, I don't have any experience doing mentoring or counseling or you know, anything like that. But I'm, you know, I like to think that I'm good with people. So I thought, you know, what, what could possibly go wrong? I was expecting it to be dramatic as, as I said, the generally dramatic and, you know, it had its dramas, and there were points where I was kind of like, Oh, my gosh, what have I done? What did I just to facilitate this is really intense, like, What if something terrible happens? Am I liable. But actually, it was basically everything I wanted it to be and more, I might select a really strong rapport with my kids that I was looking after. And they gave me some really nice feedback about like, you know, being supportive, and it was really amazing. And I think despite the emotional drain, I would definitely facilitate again. [00:54:39] So as a to a kind of your group. How did you find that role? Like? Do you think people liked been in their own groups? Do you think it brought us closer together? [00:54:52] I think so. [00:54:56] We didn't have a lot of group specific activities, which probably, you know, it'll be nice, as I think has happened to other hosts where we'll sit down for a group meal together, we did that a couple of times. And that's always really a bonding experience. Because there's something about like eating, you know, eating food with your people, it's a good time to chat and just everyone together to, I don't know, just make friends with each other. Otherwise, it's quite easy for, you know, individual members of the group to go off and just hang out with their friends from in real life or whatever. But, um, I think my group was really good. We were really close. Morgan, who was also to Canada with me was really cool. And, you know, we got our pansy power, like, like, [00:55:46] no patriotism, pride, you know, [00:55:48] flower pride going, and I think now got really into it. They're really cool bunch of people. And like, whoever chose those people to be in my group, say, that did a very good job. [00:55:58] If you were to talk to somebody that didn't really know much about who he is, you know, really worried about coming? How would you kind of let them know that it's okay, and how would you describe it? [00:56:11] How would I describe it really, um, [00:56:15] if someone was unsure about coming, I would say I was unsure about going to my first one, I thought, I really need this, I'm secure in myself, I have queer people around me, blah, blah, blah. But it was like, a really amazing experience. It's really empowering to be this is nothing quite like being as a queer person, a queer young person, being in a room full of other queer people, it's like, you never get to experience that even even if you go to a gay bar, you know, it's just getting really one kind of person. It's this flight, I couldn't even recommend it enough. And especially personally, May, I don't know being from questions have a like a white middle class upbringing. And I have never learned much about like, multi protocol or history or anything, I never got taught it in high school. So initially, I was kind of like, Oh, you know, who he I don't know anything about, you know, take hanger and older. So I'm going to do something really bad or like embarrass myself because I don't know anything, but it's so valuable, and you learn hate. So pretty much all my knowledge is like, stemmed from the hobbies that I've attended, and learning about all that side of New Zealand and stuff as well. So I think this, you know, there's no fears, heroes really supportive. We're all really awesome people, especially the took Hannah. And yeah, they're, they're structured and they're safe. And this whole, he has proved that we can do with some, you know, pretty what, what seemed to be serious problems at the time, and everyone's come through it really well. And I think it runs just ground from inside, come to the OE who is awesome. [00:58:04] I'm Daisy, I'm Cisco. And I think currently that I'm in a sexual by romantic bias. And I'm attracted to all genders, but gender is a factor in my attraction. [00:58:19] And where are you from? How did you get to this hurry? [00:58:23] I'm from Wellington. And I got to this Hurry, because I heard about it. School's out, which is a group I got a chair. And they said, this is on that's cool. And I [00:58:31] was like, sweet. [00:58:33] Come into this. We did you know many people. [00:58:36] I knew couple. There were people that I'd met, like, last week, and I knew were coming, but I wasn't completely comfortable around. So there were people I knew I could fall back on. But you know, I was kind of, yeah. [00:58:50] Did you find that you stuck with the same group or that you were able to make connections in the space, [00:58:57] I was definitely able to meet new people. Like I branched out a lot and half the time the one person that I really knew I could rely on, I didn't see them for a lot of like, they were off somewhere. I'll go somewhere else. So yeah. [00:59:10] those connections that you made. Do you think any of them really stuck out and resonated say, You met somebody like, Wow, I've never met somebody like this or you know, could then example maybe something, meeting somebody that really excited you? [00:59:26] Not really, I think a room in general was just so cool. I was like, this is really awesome. I it was really cool, though, meeting people from different backgrounds, like the people from South Auckland, because I live in Wellington. So I don't get to meet people with that, with those experiences and hearing about how their lives have been that was really interesting. [00:59:46] And but the workshops? Did you attend many of those? [00:59:51] All of them? Yeah, [00:59:53] that's really impressive, by the way, and also to how did you find the workshops as the that stuck out to you about them? [01:00:01] I really enjoyed them. They were really interesting. And again, I especially enjoyed the ones we learned about other people's experiences. So what that like the panels on like queer Asian experiences, and being queer, and Polynesian, and all that those really interesting. [01:00:17] Would you recommend a hurry to somebody else? [01:00:21] Definitely. Like, it's been a really fun experience. I've met loads of people. And I'm just going away from it. Like I want to do the skin. I really enjoyed. [01:00:29] This is your first Hurry, right? Yeah, [01:00:31] my first one. And so somebody wasn't sure about going to hurry. [01:00:35] There. [01:00:37] They just weren't really sure. Like, I don't really know what it is. What would you say to them? How would you describe the Hawaii, [01:00:43] I'd say that it's just a place [01:00:46] where you get to meet people who are like you, and everyone's really open and supportive, and no one's gonna judge you like in the outside world. And it's just a great place to meet you people and to connect and hear people's experiences and have a good time to eat nice food, which is always important. [01:01:07] So what's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [01:01:11] My name is the and identify as [01:01:18] a queer person. [01:01:22] Probably lots of other things as well, but I can't think of them right now. Yeah. [01:01:28] Where's Where do you live? And Where have you come from, to get to this hope. [01:01:33] So currently, I live in Wellington. When I was growing up, I lived in Massillon, in the wider. But I now live in Wellington. [01:01:44] And how did you find out about this hurry? I [01:01:48] did, I'd like to [01:01:50] volunteer to help organize it. [01:01:53] So involved with the organizing of the Hawaii. Is there anything that you found valuable about that something you learned? [01:02:04] I learned that [01:02:08] Friday night, two great women's fried chips. [01:02:14] I don't know I think [01:02:18] I've learnt a lot of things coming here. And actually once the way I started, I realized that there are a lot of things that we could have possibly done better. And you know, I think that's something that they'll always you're always get things out of Hawaii and out of things that you do, there are always going to be ways that you can improve. [01:02:43] Is this your first OE? [01:02:45] No, this is my second OA, I was involved in that inside out Hawaii. That happened two years ago, I volunteered in the kitchen. And I think I took an activities workshop on like, crafting and con making and I really, really loved it was the first time I'd ever could or non about this idea that there were spaces that you could come for a weekend and hang out with other queer and minority people. And so I really wanted to be a part of it this time. [01:03:17] So having gone to a previous Hurry, did you have any expectations about this hurry that were radically different. [01:03:26] I expected it would run a lot smoother. [01:03:30] Um, [01:03:32] I [01:03:35] think my expectations were made women and lots of places. So I expected that I would make lots of cool people. And I would probably learn a lot of new things. And I definitely learned a lot of new things. I think having Pacifica and Molly Tucker, technically an Asian and talk to talks was really, really important. It was really important to have them involved. So that wasn't quite so white majority. Um, it was really important, I think for a lot of the youth to learn these things as well. They probably wouldn't, didn't know about. And, and importantly, as some of the people from the Pacifica panel said that they learned some stuff from us. So it was really good and reciprocal me, ah, we're able to take away different things. [01:04:25] And final question, if somebody maybe a youth, maybe not, was really unsure about come into a hurry? How would you describe it to them? [01:04:40] I think Hawaii is a word that a lot of people assume will be promoting only. And it's not a space for anyone to come. There are a lot of people who come and they don't know anyone. And it's really intimidating for them. And they're really anxious. But actually, by the end of it when we sit down and talk about how we think I say Actually, I came and I was really scared. And I've made all these friends and I've opened up and now it's so easy for me to go up to people and ask how they are. And people [01:05:14] grow so much. And [01:05:17] I would say definitely come. [01:05:20] You don't have to know anyone that's coming. Obviously, that's really cool. If you do that, it's definitely okay for you to just come and he ran makes an effort. Everyone wants to learn new things and meet new people. So it's definitely would be worth your while if it was possible to come. [01:05:37] Hi, I'm Lydia and I identify as a lesbian, and I am gender queer. [01:05:43] And wherever you come from to get here today, came from Hamilton [01:05:49] was a eight hour bus ride very long. [01:05:52] How did you find out about this very, [01:05:55] I found out about it from wiki, which is why I could require years it's a QA and my hometown. And [01:06:02] I also found out about it from a guidance counselor [01:06:05] at my school. And she was saying that she helps with it. [01:06:09] Is this your first day for her? [01:06:10] It is indeed. And [01:06:12] did you have you talked to anybody that had been to a hurry before? [01:06:16] I talked to my friend, Alex who is part of wacky and she's basically just said, Be ready to be addicted to who he is. And you're gonna love it. And I was like, okay, sweet. But [01:06:29] yeah, that was it really just, [01:06:31] I just soaked one person about it was not many people are going to please. Yeah. [01:06:34] So looking back on you pre hurry. And now post hurry. Do you think there any differences between your whole attitude towards them? [01:06:45] Absolutely. [01:06:46] I think I understand Alex's view, [01:06:51] I'm definitely going to more. [01:06:53] I think like I came with a really, [01:06:57] like unexpected, [01:06:59] I didn't know what to expect. So I came with this kind of attitude, like our [01:07:04] artists like what I can get out of this. And I think it's important, I was important for me to have that view because I'd come like, with a negative attitude, I [01:07:12] don't think I would have got as much out of it. But um, [01:07:16] I think like my attitude towards [01:07:18] always have [01:07:20] I don't know, I didn't really have a bad attitude to start off with. So I think it's just really improved in like, I'll just be an advocate for people. Like when I'm discussing hallways, and I'll be like, totally go to one and this [01:07:35] before come into the hallway. Did you know many people that you knew would be here? [01:07:39] I know two people, my friend crystal who I actually met online. And we bonded over mutual sexuality and my friend Laura, who goes to it. [01:07:51] So not knowing many people? Did you find that it was easy to make connections? How did you find coming into space where there was so many people that you didn't know? [01:08:05] So I I'm quite a social person, I'm a real extrovert. And I thrive off of social interaction being around people. So it wasn't hard for me to, to talk to other people and meet the people that I think [01:08:21] I like. [01:08:23] I don't know, I just kind of [01:08:27] i don't know i five of social interaction. So I think like, talking to people was easy. But like, I I'm the kind of person who is often I'm often the kind of person who starts the conversation. And then people don't really talk back because they're shy and nervous. But I think a lot of people here they're either a desperate for friends or be there just as friendly as I am. And they just didn't sifting. And they feel comfortable and safe here. So they were able to be like, hey, yeah, totally, I'm going to interact with you conversation. So it was nice to just be able to talk to anyone and not have to carry on the conversation because they they didn't have for me. And I don't know, I guess like that. [01:09:10] Yeah, that was really cool. You don't [01:09:12] find that a lot of [01:09:14] a lot of places. And final [01:09:16] question on? How would you? What would you like somebody to know, that hasn't been to a hurry before? [01:09:28] Okay, so if you're thinking about coming to Hawaii, [01:09:32] I think just like, [01:09:35] come with, [01:09:36] like, don't come with expectations. Because honestly, it's a life lesson. It's not what I learned here. But like, if you have high expectations for something, it's so easy to be let down. So don't come with high expectations just come with an attitude, like a positive attitude. Because every have a positive attitude towards what you want to do is you're going to find you get pulled things out of it. Like, yeah, and also, when you can, like, come to make friends or calm, like, I'm going to get a girlfriend or I'm going to, [01:10:08] I don't know, kind of just [01:10:13] make people like me, like it's hardly make people like you to come like with the attitude like I'm about to make some new friends I'm going to make, like meet new people, and they're going to understand me like, you have to understand that queer people was like so inspiring. And it's crazy being put into this, this whole environment because people outside of outside of this environment can be really shallow and really uncomfortable, make you feel really unsafe. And so being around such a huge group of people you feel connected to everyone. And I think it's important to remember like, [01:10:55] you you're making friends and you're making like family here. And like [01:11:01] know that when you come like know that you're going to connect with people because they're just like you. And you're all in the sidebar. [01:11:09] Hi there. What's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [01:11:13] Hi, I'm Duncan. Identify as a pen sexual. Paki. Hi, male. [01:11:22] Where did you come from? [01:11:24] I'm so I'm the general manager at Randy youth based in Oakland. So I came from there, too. Yeah, [01:11:30] I see the homies. How did you hear about the story? [01:11:33] I think I heard about it from Tabby. When we were marching in the pride pride in Oakland in February. And Mr. Nick EK was there who had literally just approved of his funding, Terry, I'm telling them all [01:11:45] your secrets. [01:11:47] So have you been to a previous OE before? [01:11:50] I don't think I've been to an inside out job before. But I've been to uni QE and right, you run a few hundred for. And we ran? Because I'm Holly back in 2011 as well. [01:12:00] Yeah. So come into her with some expectations. Having been to some previous hurry to how do you think this one was different. [01:12:12] And I think the ceiling for the story was really nice. So I haven't been to, it's really nice when you have a hurry, which is so self contained like this on a mirror. And, but it's also very handy. That's like five minute walk to the shop. Because sometimes people do just need to go and buy candy, or the tins of tomatoes, you forgot for dinner. And [01:12:30] so I think that was one thing that was really different. [01:12:33] I actually ended up staying in the kitchen most of the time. So I [01:12:37] have to admit, come into the hurry. [01:12:41] A lot of us didn't know very many people wasn't the same few. [01:12:46] I know I used to when I was younger, I was always quite. I didn't like going into big groups, people I didn't know. And I think coming here as a little bit worried that [01:12:56] the people I didn't know would kind of be busy doing other things. So when it's time to hang out with me, [01:13:02] that wasn't [01:13:03] really the case at all. And I made some awesome new people [01:13:05] like yourself [01:13:07] and working together with people on kitchen crew and stuff like that. Yeah, it was cool. [01:13:12] Do you think it's easy to make connections at a hurry? [01:13:16] Yeah, I think it's an ideal space to it. Because very, we don't often have the chance to just come together and spend time together and build out there. Like a phenomenal time between each other, which you kind of need to keep each other in mind and actually, genuinely work together as you go forward. Rather than just like an email being like, Hey, we should do this together doesn't really work. [01:13:39] Why do you think we run boys? Why do you think they're important? [01:13:44] And that they're important to kind of dispel that sense of isolation, which I think a lot of young people have, and what I've heard at the OE, about growing up in their home communities. So sometimes even if you go along to group once a week, and it's got five other people there, and you still kind of living in that hitching on a world where the parents kind of a bit tense, maybe in schools about shirts and things like that, where you come to this place, which is really positive and firming, you see like 100 other people who all just accept you for who you are. [01:14:13] Yeah, so it's really good and positive and affirming for the young people. And [01:14:19] you can build great connections across the country rather than just in your own local region. [01:14:24] Hi, there. What's your name? And how would you identify yourself? [01:14:29] Kyle? And I'm at FTM? And also, [01:14:34] Where have you come from? [01:14:37] And how did you find out about this? [01:14:39] Three Chevy. [01:14:41] Chevy, have you been to Hawaii before? This? [01:14:44] No, not an LGBT one. [01:14:46] I had you heard about who is before? [01:14:51] Yes. [01:14:52] What did you know about them? Then? Maybe How did some of those perceptions change when you finally got here? [01:14:58] Um, I knew that was great big get togethers. Um, and obviously thought that would be [01:15:03] a good idea. But I didn't [01:15:05] actually get around to planning to go to one. And I thought it was really good. And all surprised by the diverse amount of people here like I didn't realize everyone would be reasonably well represented. [01:15:20] Did you get to talk to some people at this very, that you didn't, wouldn't usually get to talk to in your everyday life? [01:15:27] Yeah, I would definitely say so. I mean, and hums No, that's quite small. So there's a very, I wouldn't say a small trance medium or small out trans community. And along with that, quite often, it's less common for people to be open to dating more than one particular gender as well. So yeah, it was quite good to, to meet people that were like that, and [01:15:53] also people that were a lot more fluid, because that's not as common, neither. [01:15:57] Did you make it to many of the workshops, [01:15:59] yet? Most of them, [01:16:00] except the last day, which was naps? [01:16:04] Um, how did you find them? Was there anything that stuck out to you that you'd like to share? [01:16:13] I would say just everyone's different inputs and everyone's [01:16:18] unique perspectives. [01:16:22] I mean, any of those perspectives that you thought, like, real positively about [01:16:29] I really enjoyed some of the Pacific Islanders, perspectives and how the culture was different to [01:16:38] how [01:16:40] the third gender isn't, like frowned upon as much and things like that, and how a lot more aware of differences in gender and stuff, then I suppose the Western world, originally, or Ms. History has been? [01:16:55] and final question. If you were to hear about somebody wasn't sure about trying to hurry, quite nervous, and things like that. How would you describe it? So [01:17:06] I'm [01:17:08] very open, very diverse, and very welcoming. And not a problem for shy people. [01:17:17] Hi, there. What's your name? And how did you identify yourself? [01:17:21] And then so and identify is a trans guy. [01:17:27] Yeah. And Where have you come from to get to this? Who I came from Penny? How did you find out about this? Boy? [01:17:37] I got an email about where I work at your so came up on a few websites and email got sent around on with his [01:17:48] Have you been to Hawaii before? [01:17:50] Yeah, I've been to Hawaii before but not one like this or organize? purely for? [01:17:58] Like diverse sexuality and Gene orientations? Yeah. [01:18:03] So coming into the space, how was your What was your initial reaction? [01:18:10] I was real good. I was just know, it was enough wasn't like forced. People with force, so get to know each other. It was more like gradual and in your own time. It was really cool to say that being embrace and just building it run somewhat of a natural course. [01:18:33] Do you find that it's a welcoming space? Did you Was it easy for yourself to make connections here? [01:18:40] Yeah, I found it was quite welcoming. And it was real [01:18:44] easy to make connections just because I could relate to a whole lot of things that we've been talking about. Or [01:18:51] I'd thought about what was being talking about previously? Yeah. [01:18:56] Can you maybe give an example of something that resonated with you? [01:19:04] I have a few friends who struggle was [01:19:09] religion and [01:19:11] the sexual orientation and not trying to find what a balance between it and I found the same to the panel about much fun and all that. Really interesting to see how the sort of drill world's cross ended up found a balance of themselves with quite happy and confident. [01:19:37] Did you make it to many of the workshops? [01:19:40] Yeah, I made it. All of them except one, because I'd done it before. [01:19:46] Yeah. Did you? Um, was there anything spoken about that you hadn't really discussed before that you [01:19:54] thought was important? [01:19:57] I think talk [01:20:00] again, finance, top way was really interesting, because as not mention, or people don't really know, it exists, or it's around, or they say that the top is kind of new tunes. But they're not. And a lot of people don't know the history [01:20:16] behind it. So I thought it [01:20:19] was real good that it was brought up. I'm just hearing more about like, [01:20:24] the minorities within the minorities within my artist was quite good. Yeah. [01:20:28] And final question. If somebody wasn't very sure about coming to Hawaii, they've never been quite nervous. And they asked you for some advice. How would you describe it to them? [01:20:41] massively welcoming in [01:20:45] a big eye opener, and to go there with an open mind and just go with the flow. Yeah,

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