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[00:00:00] This program is brought to you by pride nz.com. [00:00:05] So I'm Karen, one of the parade organizers. And I've organized this along with Adrian and the rest of the Mountain Park committee. We're currently in civic square, just getting ready for the parade to start, it will be starting at 1130. So we've got bit of time waiting for the groups to arrive, and lots of individuals as well. So we're all getting very excited. It's already looking very colorful. And lots of hype is jackets, but lots of feathers and pink and fabulousness as well. [00:00:29] Yeah. And we've actually got some sunshine because this has been postponed a couple of times this month. [00:00:32] Yeah, we originally were meant to have the parade in Valentine's Day. That's why it's partly called the love parade. But we did get winded off and we're in Wellington when we couldn't put any of the tents up for the fair. So when we weren't unfortunately able to have the parade and everyone was very disappointed. So yes, this is our second run it. Luckily, so far, it's looking great. So we're hoping that the weather will keep for the rest of the morning. [00:00:55] And tell me about some of the groups that are providing. [00:00:58] Yeah, we've got a number of groups, a lot of money unity groups with us this morning. So we have people like the lesbian radio show, and lots of other little the youth groups are coming out to meet us this morning. So the teachers unions, lots of the other union groups as well, a lot of the sports groups and the LGBT sports groups in Wellington. So we're really pleased to kind of have we want this to have a really community feel about it. So we're really pleased that lot of the groups have still been able to come along even on the rescheduled date. [00:01:26] Do you have any comments about what happened at pride and Oakland where there were some practices about about having corrections? And please start marching? Yeah, [00:01:33] we've, obviously we've talked about that a lot. And obviously, it's really unfortunate what happened in Auckland, and it's created a lot of discussion that probably doesn't need to happen. I mean, we feel our event is quite different, because we're, we're very community focused. And so our event is about the community creating a space for community groups. So obviously, what happened in Auckland, which, you know, has caused a lot of discussion for us. And it's obviously a really unfortunate event, I think it's important that is discuss systemically about what's happening in all of our organizations, really, and the different views about that. But we're hoping that today, we're really focusing on the Wellington community, and especially the youth groups and things like that, and about all coming together and just celebrating the kind of queer community and Wellington really [00:02:17] hold on to him. [00:02:17] Yeah, absolutely. There are a few hats flying around. But it's better than QZ bows, which is what we had last time. [00:02:24] My name is Adrian curling, and I'm one of the coordinators, along with Karen. And together we are called Adrian. And this is the first parade that we've had in Wellington, nearly 20 years. And so we just thought it was time to resurrect. So here we are. And unfortunately, we were rained out with an original date in February. But we've come back together with Cuba. And they're letting us open the whole festival of Cuba different this morning. So we're really, really [00:02:55] excited. So what's it been like organizing such a large braid. [00:03:01] It's been a lot of work, I would have to say, but so much fun. And Karen and I work really, really well together. And so we just give each other a lot of energy and love and we get to wear fabulous costumes and just made a lot of people so it's we've had a really good response. [00:03:19] Describe what you're wearing. A fabulous [00:03:23] drag queen named Marcella here was one of our sponsors from and let me her headpiece. But she had made in Bangkok. It kind of looks like a Brazilian carnival. headpiece, it's purple feathers. There's two pieces to it. And it's very heavy, but I love it. [00:03:44] how's it gonna stay on on this one? [00:03:47] I actually have no idea. That's a work in progress. [00:03:51] So I'm Baden and I'm being I'm a traffic Marshal here. So helping people cross the road when the parade gets to Nana's mall. doing it because I love doing traffic and just helping people get across the road safely. [00:04:07] So is this the first kind of Pride Parade that you've you've kind of mastered for? [00:04:10] No, this is the second the second one over at Marshall fair out in the square last year. So just down on the bullet down the bottom the entrance last year. So in sold raffle tickets all last year as well. So what [00:04:23] was working on the screen like last year, it was [00:04:25] also make sure I really enjoyed the whole day first person who arrived and then last one the guy so that's how much I enjoyed it. [00:04:33] What was the kind of vibe like, [00:04:34] um, it was, like very good. It was a very good vibe actually like that different first someone is not a $2 gay or gay person it was so it was interesting actually, is the way the way to interesting. [00:04:48] Hi, my name is Brianna. I'm in front of us. We have some beautiful ladies, they are looking good today. [00:04:57] And these three if they're gonna be leading the parade. [00:05:00] I actually have no idea. [00:05:03] Potentially, I hope so. [00:05:08] So, um, what what brought you to volunteering here? [00:05:12] Um, [00:05:13] well, to be honest, I'm just kind of passing through Wellington. And I heard about the parade. And I always, you know, I like to be part of the prize for the pride festival because, you know, it's, I don't know, I guess I, I like being a part of it. And more so than just letting it pass by. It's kind of nice to be like within the community, I guess. [00:05:36] So this is not the first Pride Parade you've been in? [00:05:37] Hell no. [00:05:41] I last summer, I was in the, the pride festival in Toronto, which was like massive and really, really fun. [00:05:50] Good times. [00:05:52] So can you describe, you know, why a pride festivals and pride parade so important? [00:05:58] Yeah, I think that, especially for young people, it's like important [00:06:05] for them to see that it's accepted within like the community. And it's like a nice chance for people to gather and like celebrate who they are. [00:06:16] My name is Talia love. And I'm friends and some of the organizers and out of the community. So I volunteered to [00:06:23] give them a hand. [00:06:24] And so what are you doing in the front? [00:06:27] So I'm at the front with Karen. I'm leading the way I've got a drum. [00:06:33] I'll be Yeah. showing people way to go. [00:06:37] And can you describe what you're wearing? [00:06:39] Sure. I've got a [00:06:40] sort of colonial style, [00:06:42] great coat, and sparkly head and some kind of really noisy drum. [00:06:51] My name is Sydney layman. And I [00:06:54] came out here today because I know Adrian who's organizing it. And it's also [00:06:59] I guess, fight [00:06:59] my [00:07:02] inability to express myself on on this kind of level. It's something new and we're also here with women's refuge. So um, yeah, lesbian visibility is one of the big tenants. So it's Yeah, it feels really important, really cool thing to support. [00:07:14] Is this the first time you've been a part of it? [00:07:17] Yeah, for sure. For sure. I've only recently, I guess, in the last six months, set of dating a woman and so it's it's all quite new, but exciting and good and different. And yeah, it's great. [00:07:30] I'm Stephanie, Gabby, and I'm with woman's refuge to I this is my first time in a actually my second time and I'm proud of it. But the last time I marched in Wellington was in 1985, during the during the homosexual law reform bill, so it's something I've always been passionate about. My grandmother was a lesbian. I came out as lesbian at a young age and yeah, but have just recently, I mean, come back to dating woman's I've more of queer identify as queer. So it's something I can really get behind. And it's just beautiful to see the community come together in such a beautiful day and to celebrate ourselves at all i unique diversity. And um, I just I couldn't think of a better way to, to be proud and to to. Yeah, just unity, I guess. Yeah. [00:08:22] So what was the feeling in 1985? When you marched? [00:08:26] Um, [00:08:28] it was more somber. [00:08:31] Yeah, it [00:08:32] was it was far more somber. It was [00:08:36] an overwhelming feeling of like, this is just absolutely the right thing to do. And the unjust. Yeah, I guess behind that there was, yeah, the conviction of like, this is absolutely wrong, this should not be happening in our country. So it's fantastic to see all the things that New Zealand has made, like, if you look at the Marriage Act, and you know, and the strides we've made, and even though even in contemporary culture, how it's just so much more accepting, like, I'm lucky enough to work in an office with with four before four of us and three of us are gay, and that and it's it's actually, you know, the reverse of a lot of other places that usually work out or places where you feel like you need to hide a part of yourself. Yeah. Yeah. [00:09:21] So do you guys have any thoughts on the pride protests in Oakland recently, we're with people have been practicing against corruption staff and police for for matching. [00:09:32] Yeah, I think it said, Yeah, I really think it said, I think everyone should feel free to express themselves and any way that you know, any way that I was very sorry to hear about the the violence that happened up there, I mean, I'm working for women's refuge. It's something we absolutely don't condone violence in any form. So yeah, we're looking for a peaceful good time. And it's about supporting and celebrate. It's about celebrating ourselves and all that you need diversity. So yeah, just to shine with that happened. Yeah. [00:10:05] Yeah. I mean, [00:10:07] I don't I don't have a [00:10:08] huge amount of comment to make on on the issue. I haven't been following and I sort of saw a few things. But, um, yeah, just in regards to what today is about, I think a lot of it is, you know, so I was looking for a flat recently, and, and I was going with my friends, and I was like, you know, I'm not really sure. Because I'm, you know, my girlfriend might come and stay with me. She's living in tonight. And, and, and I, I went to a flat viewing and I was like, not really sure if I should even mention that with them. And, and my friend looks at me, like once we left and I said united didn't really want to bring it up. And he's like, come on, this is this is 2015. Like, if they've got a problem with it, then there's something seriously wrong with them. But I do feel like we're getting that way that at least it's it's unpopular to have issue. But yeah, it has been really surprising and exciting for me as kind of someone more on the on the recent coming out things that I've expected a lot more results. And I've had, you know, telling a work colleague, and I was quite nervous about it. And she was like, incredibly supportive, and just like asking questions, like I was telling her, I was dating anyone, and that was that was really nice. That was really nice. So I think a lot of today is about being able to celebrate with our community that we have come quite a long way. And like there's, there's still a lot that needs to happen. But as as a general, you know, New Zealand and especially in Wellington, there's an acceptance that I think is quite exciting. Yeah, and it's, it's great to be a part of it. [00:11:35] We're on civic square, on the fake Ross in front of the city gallery, and the photographers have lined up the band, which is just ready to take part in the parade. And there's a group of amazing drag queens, they're not drag queen goddesses. They're all about seven feet tall, and fully white dresses, were wearing wings is a group with the sign of love, which I be carrying down. That just to da so we have marching Down to the car park, which is the result of a with a abortion adventure four weeks ago. We're not doing it on lovely day, but it is windy. But we're here and Frank here and I'm here and we're marching for different strokes, Wellington [00:12:27] and Frank, what is different strokes. [00:12:29] It's a swim team. It's a GLBTIN straight, friendly swimming group. We meet three times we make three times a week. And we have a coach and it's a really good workout. [00:12:44] And [00:12:44] yeah, and and it's open, open everyone whether beginners intermediate or expert swimmers. Everyone's everyone's invited. [00:12:52] And your costumes in the parade. What are they going to be? [00:12:55] Just start t shirts, it's a DSW [00:12:58] we're not all in costume. We leave that to the drag [00:13:02] to the drag divas. [00:13:06] divas. [00:13:07] And why is it important to be in such pride? [00:13:10] Well, I think it's important to show people visibility that the gays and lesbians trans by intersex are all part of the community. And and and we're just really blessed here in Wellington and New Zealand in general that we have a very progressive, open and welcoming culture that doesn't discriminate. And it's just [00:13:30] I'm just happy to be here. [00:13:36] Cool. What do you think it's important to too much and prayed? [00:13:39] And well, I've not been one of the parade, which was the Mardi Gras in Sydney 20 years ago. And it was the first time I'd ever thought about doing it. And it was such a euphoric experience for me. Then I was 20 years younger today I'm aging new geriatric Go man. And I still much unit parade because Frank want me to find from very good from Australia. We're both adopted religion, which is a fantastic city, which allows the and encourages these parades to happen. So what why not participate in a city which offers so much to all its members? It's terribly inclusive, totally inclusive Wellington. And if we don't do it, no one might do it. So we here and our friends you got to turn up later, they just light like most Kiwis were there in the early ones. [00:14:37] My name is Freya. And I'm basically here. Well, because I want to be obviously I'm a queer person myself. Besides that, I'm also proud of the fresh fruit nice group. We are an online Meetup group for gay people in Wellington. So yeah, it was just really about come along supporting the community [00:14:55] spread up in [00:14:56] it has actually, yeah, it's pretty exciting. [00:15:00] Why are these kind of rights important? [00:15:03] This kind of price are important, because you're really, I feel like that on an everyday basis, you don't really see a lot of people who are out and you don't really get to see, you know, your own community was represented. And it's really important to have that representation representation for people to be able to say, you know, normal everyday people, but also really fabulous people just having a lot of fun being themselves. Yeah. [00:15:28] So do you have any comments on the protests that happened at the Oakland Pride Parade? Um, [00:15:35] is this the one where john k was bird? [00:15:38] This is the one where there was a group of protesters that got onto the parade route, and were protesting against [00:15:44] that one. Okay, I was about to say, john keeping bird was I was totally up my alley, but [00:15:52] I'm not surprised that it happened. That said, you know, the parade must go on, we're gonna have fun, we're going to be out, we're gonna through what we have to do to you know, make our community be comfortable with ourselves and be confident. Yeah. [00:16:07] So what do you think some of the issues are for kind of rainbow people in New Zealand, 2014. [00:16:12] And 2015, I feel like there is still a lot of internalized homophobia, just in the general public. I mean, you're still here, a lot of slurs sit among young young people. And a lot of older people still, you know, struggle to accept the gay community. I know that unlike my personal life, even my family sometimes can get things mixed up and confused, and it can be rather disheartening. Um, [00:16:37] sir, I think, [00:16:39] you know, more acceptance, more knowledge, especially is really important just to kind of address those sort of issues. [00:16:46] So what kind of confusions I mean, what, what, what a lot of people kind of get confused about, [00:16:50] okay, so I guess this is a personal anecdote. [00:16:54] Um, but my mother is a doctor. And one time she came into my room, and she actually said, said, I'm so afraid, I heard that by people don't exist. They actually are just lesbians in the closet. And I've actually heard that more than once from a family member. And it just was very shocking. And I had to just kind of talk to her about it, even though I'm not sure she entirely gets. [00:17:19] My name is Kay Jones. And I'm having to choose which of the mini queer groups that I'm associated with to march with the donuts, you know, it's challenging do I match without a PSA do I match with the I'm choosing to match with the queer people of faith in the churches and religions, because it's part of human rights. And I've been coming to these things. And since the days when decency was organized the gay and lesbian feedback and new town, and I can remember when it was needed for queer visibility to actually change laws. And now it's needed to say, Hey, we're having fun, and we're here and we're continuing to being queer. [00:17:53] Do you have any comments about the the the protests that happened at the pride parade in Oakland? [00:17:57] Yeah, I think some people have been often that pride has a history of protest, and that for a young trans woman to be the same. She's really concerned about seeing corrections marching in uniform, when there are still trans women and queer people in prisons being subjected to truthful treatment. I think the way that the organizers did not respect that and didn't keep her safe, even if she was protesting, is totally reprehensible. And part of it is like what happened at the march and part of it is how the media handle it. And I think there's still a really big failure to recognize that there are structural issues that need to be addressed, I was really pleased to see that Kevin Hague, and Jen Logan have had a bill number bill petition that they're going to raise in Parliament talking for an inquiry into the treatment of intersex and transgender people, because there's still so many failings. And so that was really an issue that it's important. Now, I appreciate that many people marched in the pride march for yes, I do want to show the community that we're here and there's a really a lot of positivity. But I was really sad that I didn't think there was enough respect given to to the dissenting voices because that's the thing in a democracy, you need dissenting voices, and you need to make sure that they've got the opportunity to speak and even if the match had to go around them, or or had to sort of pause for a moment that was not a big ask actually handling somebody so badly that around got broken. No, it's not a good thing. [00:19:30] My name is Jesse Sharif. And I'm seeing a lot of wonderful people having good fun. They're all in costume. I look great. very envious of some of the high heels these guys are wearing. They just look amazing. I look wonderful. [00:19:50] So which is your favorite costume so far? [00:19:55] I really like that the love you know, both of the loves and but I have to say these these especially that fella there with a with a really high [00:20:09] gold shoes on. I think [00:20:11] he's got amazing legs. Beautiful. [00:20:16] I'm as jealous as anything. [00:20:19] Must be incredibly hard to walk in as well. [00:20:22] Trust me they are. I couldn't walk. I mean, that's what I walk in. But he's walking in stilettos. So yeah, yeah, it's great. It's really good to see. [00:20:32] So what brought you guys here today? [00:20:35] We actually came to the market and solace happening. And so we've just sit down to enjoy it. Yep. My daughter's gay. I don't she's not here. But [00:20:47] I just I just love all this. [00:20:50] I think it's great. What do you think it's important to have such a kind of visible showing? [00:21:01] I don't know. I think [00:21:04] that the more [00:21:07] out people are, the more we we are. Have it amongst us. The more accepting some people may learn to become I guess, I hope that's what's happening. [00:21:24] Because [00:21:26] because it just people and [00:21:30] and you can learn a lot from them. [00:21:33] They have to put up with a lot of garbage. [00:21:35] So [00:21:36] it's good that you know if they say show a show of strength, that there's lots and lots of people out there who are gay. Maybe people will learn the people need to learn will learn that it's okay. Yeah. [00:21:55] That's what I think. [00:21:58] I think it's amazing. [00:22:00] Really love it. [00:22:01] It's It's hard to believe I was talking to somebody down down on the forecourt and they had marched in the 19 8500 sexual Law Reform March. Oh, yeah. And just the change in attitude and society since 85. [00:22:13] I know. Well, when we're talking about because my daughter's gay. But my son is my eldest son anyway, is very anti gay. He's [00:22:30] claims to be a Christian. And so [00:22:33] it was really interesting, a few years ago, when they were doing that March. And my daughter and her friends were watching from my house. And she said, it was quite frightening all the hate that was out there. And, but it has changed, you know, I mean, when she was just a kid, long before she recognize that she was gay or long before I recognize that she was gay. She goes public toilet, and girls would measure up, she picked. You know, it was just horrific. But the worst damage that has ever been done to my daughter has been done by her own family. So [00:23:17] you know, I just hope that when [00:23:21] these people's families [00:23:26] can see the solidarity that they're they're not hurting anybody, they just being it just being that maybe they'll come to an acceptance. No, yeah. [00:23:42] My name is Liam, just come to support, the local community was going to go to the other event, but then obviously got canceled. So I'm glad that they're still going ahead. Yeah, it's just nice to be part of something like this in Wellington. So this is the first kind of pride event you've been and I've been some in the UK, which was slightly bigger scale, but um, yeah, it's still nice CM what people are doing here in Wellington as well, so, [00:24:03] so why are these things important? [00:24:05] I think it's good to show support and have your voices heard. And yeah, and just their support for the community here so [00:24:14] so when you've been to other events, have you been participating or just just watching them [00:24:18] and they're not showing any praise or anything because they've been on a lot bigger scale and maybe live music and things going on? And so yeah, but not not like this. So this is different. [00:24:30] Can you just tell me what you've what you can see in front of [00:24:33] lots of people just lots of different colors. Everyone looking pretty flamboyant. But yeah, [00:24:41] it looks like it's gonna be good. [00:24:43] And your favorite Christmas. [00:24:46] I don't know everyone looks like they've gone to town to be honest. So all the all the beautiful drag queens looking pretty impressive. must have got up pretty early this morning to get ready. I [00:25:00] getting ready to start up right there. shortly. We're going to get a little bit sassy on from the organizers. What we doing is, as you can see on the left hand side me, we've got the New Zealand Police Department Say hi to them. [00:25:14] No, Sam. [00:25:19] Thank you so much. what they're going to do is they're going to coordinate our walk. So as we go across the road leaving from the Michael fellows center, we're going to cross that road. What's over here? I don't know what it's called. It's a big road. But the police are going to stop people from running. Wakefield Street The police are going to stop people from running all over us. They may get a carry on straight up through the procedure of Cuba Street. You all have know this. Did you open your email? [00:25:46] Did you? [00:25:48] Thank you. You've got to be responsive please. Or else yet the leads be instead they were the only ones and thank you so much the lesbian community. We're going to go from there straight up to the center of care street where the umbrella is carry on slowly. The people that are in the front are going to be following Georgina Baya, and one of our lead sponsors from the New Zealand from the ancc. What does that stand for? Does anybody know? Australia and New Zealand? Oh, you're so clever. But everyone's going to follow Gina bias and Marcella and leave and say hi to Jane. From bicycle junction. He's provided the transport so they don't have to walk. [00:26:32] Then [00:26:33] I can I just ask that you take it slowly. It goes slowly so that people can get visualized. Can we do that? Yeah. Then we're going to carry on up pass the water fountain. And we all going to the clip chance not that's right hand side here. To the right hand side. Does anyone know we met a bonus stage to the metal horn side. Once we get to the very top of Ghazni straight, everyone is going to stop and all the girls that have got capes, you online that have got paid, we're all going to line up and there's going to be immediate pitch on Ghazni Street. So as you're walking towards the street, and there's a little lane way that will lead us get into the park. As you're walking down the street smaller, make as much noise as you possibly can on the way up. Does anybody have any questions? No, gray. [00:27:32] Fabulous. Hi, I'm [00:27:34] Georgina buyer. And I was kindly asked if I would please join this wonderful love parade who is part of out in the square. And oh, sorry, out in the park, [00:27:43] car park. In fact, it's going to be today. And it's just a nice way to be part of the community. And I'm you know, really glad to be here. [00:27:52] Can you describe what you're wearing? [00:27:54] Oh, well, there is a an ensemble of us who are depicting Grecian goddesses. And that's what we're wearing today. So I got a beautiful vivid blue cape, and a Grecian style dress on with a fabulous mirrored headdress. It's just incredible. [00:28:14] It's so much. [00:28:19] We're about to start by first. We have Jen Logan from the Green Party. Here to say a few words before we get going. [00:28:32] I gotta say [00:28:33] You look gorgeous. [00:28:36] today. [00:28:39] How can you miss it. And today is the day about love. This is the love parade. And it's about love for our community, love for ourselves and love for the beauty of diversity. And when we come together and we see ourselves and all our variants, and not every day now and now it's three minutes, and an fabulousness then I think Wellington should be bowing down and saying thank you quiz, you make this city beautiful. And I suspect we may be a slightly smaller group today than we would have been originally. But I believe we are perfectly formed. You look absolutely gorgeous. And I was on the parade, the last one here in Wellington. It was 20 years ago. And so much has changed since then, back when I was in a black with a liver cola. And now I'm a politician [00:29:45] come a long way. And your gorgeousness, just speaks to how [00:29:52] this country could still come in terms of acknowledging all our fabulousness and what that has to offer everyone. So if hope you all enjoy today, and I'm going to enjoy being with us through the streets of Wellington showing up. [00:30:17] Okay, so I'm gonna count us down, [00:30:20] and we can start. [00:30:27] Hey, [00:30:34] here we go. [00:30:48] What we have here [00:30:49] is a queer community coming together and celebrating the relocation of the square to what is this year gotta be Alpha Kappa, new venue, and hopefully, new stuff for for further inclusion and celebration. So [00:31:09] what can you see who's in front of us? [00:31:13] queer people, [00:31:16] members of lesbians, we've got [00:31:20] representatives of the public service association is I have to say some military people later on just a cross section, cross sectional representation of pretty much as well in Jim's queer community. Unique here carry just coming class now. Unique here is the career support group for you. Victoria University of Wellington, Students Association, run by Friday, passing through now celebrating their community honors. Just to hold on, of course, they're providing us a gorgeous shelf as well. [00:32:07] So tell me, what's it like to be in the brain? [00:32:09] What's the lifespan of right and this right here? It's very honorable to be in this right, obviously, [00:32:13] because like, you know, I [00:32:14] would say in a lot of other places around New [00:32:16] Zealand that there is a gay scene or there's a GL BCI say, what he wants in his community, these very tight, as you can say, [00:32:25] you know, everybody's just made an effort. And it's Yeah, [00:32:27] yeah, very privileged, very privileged to see you [00:32:29] as well. My love. [00:32:37] So can I ask you while you're watching, [00:32:40] to celebrate diversity in Korean culture, [00:32:43] and that's a great opportunity that the match [00:32:46] is going on. [00:32:50] With Cooper [00:32:53] and so who you're representing [00:32:58] a radio program, which is I bought [00:33:00] a radio [00:33:08] from the 80s. I don't want any, because it's a community program has got no edge. Why would have been a look like an ED [00:33:17] dry all the way. [00:33:21] So, um, what do you think of the grade? [00:33:24] And I think it's really colorful. It's nice. It's nice to see all the people out. Yeah. [00:33:30] Is this the first property you've seen? [00:33:31] No. I've been to quite a few in England. Yeah. Yeah. [00:33:35] Why are they so important? [00:33:38] Because it lets everybody [00:33:40] know, in the general community, like how lots of people whether they're gay or straight, and can come together and support equality, and celebrate love. Yeah, kind of exposes it to the wider community. [00:33:56] Can you describe for me what you're seeing now? [00:33:58] and pink balloon Gay Pride flags, people dressed in multiple colors or unicorn? [00:34:07] Lots people, kids, adults, old people, young people. Just come together? Yeah. [00:34:29] Wellington after so many years of not matching. [00:34:40] Is this the first time you've watched? [00:34:41] Yep. Yep. That shows? Yeah. What do you think these kind of prides are important about visibility and, and just about being part of the Wellington community. Yeah, was a penny that we didn't get too much in February, as you know, as part of our own fear. But that's [00:35:03] Hey, guys. Hey, so I'm doing a little documentary about the Pride Parade. Um, can I interview you? And just so what do you think of this? [00:35:10] I think it's fantastic. It's wonderful. Everyone should be part of the key the face. And it's great that they're involved and supported and gay. The Gay Pride [00:35:22] is this the first time you've seen a pride parade? [00:35:24] I'm noticing them occasionally. When they hit they're out in the park or out and [00:35:31] so what's the what's the vibe generally? [00:35:40] It's a good vibe. [00:35:41] It's the only thing that's just a little off [00:35:51] kilter high willing to make some noise while we find it. And I'm happy to play my we've got some blue skies, blue skies, that what did you think would happen if you gave a drag queen a microphone? She gonna start singing? Um, so I'd like to welcome everyone to out of the car park. Yeah. The car park? Yeah, I was. I was born in the 1970s. And I have some like real like life moments. And then a car park You know? So this is like, coming back to my nasty nasty words. You know? Who's I'm talking about the rest of my head because they are children presidents. And this is a family of beings. And we're like to think hold on my sister's. [00:36:41] Hi, darling. [00:36:42] What's your name? [00:36:53] What's your name? Dear? [00:36:55] O [00:36:59] look at your I love you. Actually. I love the attention. But that's close enough. Hi, darling. It's my big sister in the whole world. Is this [00:37:14] how is she? [00:37:19] UO second leg? Oh my god. Oh, no. Hello, my sister in crime for a moment one of our sponsors INZ she's come down from state to hell. Hey, masella. Thank you very much. And we've got [00:37:34] cash over in our stand [00:37:36] which is just on the road. If you need case, you've got a past facility [00:37:40] there. And it's wonderful to be here representing AMVO. [00:37:45] And of course we've got lots and lots of sponsors. And of course this Queen forgot to print your sponsorship now. So we all know girl I know. There's no just organized like a drag queen. And finally, [00:37:57] we've got Georgina banner, Georgina. You may not remember. [00:38:06] Enjoy your attention go. [00:38:16] Oh, my goodness and a flash in Hamilton in the 1990s you were you were staying there with a liner and Vicki. I don't know if you remember this. It's okay. This is [00:38:25] no secret [00:38:26] now say Prince. Please. What did I do? [00:38:30] Well, I was doing drag for the first time. Ever see, Georgina? Do I need a work? And you see it? Yes. Oh, and look what we've got here. Is that Amelia? how fabulous this Celia maybe she wants to come up on the stage. [00:38:49] Silly right brown everyone i'm not sure what the honorific is your worship. Worship definitely. [00:38:56] And I'm I understand you, you might like to say a few words to our fabulous audience. [00:38:59] I love to welcome you all here. Cure everybody. And it's just wonderful to have the rainbow community in Wellington. I'm Wade Brown. So I wore Brown. But you do all of the rest of the rainbow so well. Awesome. And look looks set to go off and I love the combination. Maybe that rain came for a reason the other day. So to all the gay, lesbian, transgender, intersex and any other combination that we haven't invented yet. What am I missed? What am I in trouble for? Awesome, awesome. Awesome. You had so much talent and coloring creativity to the capital. I am so proud that the love parade has arrived here in this amazing magical space. So I love the library. I love the previous I think you're absolutely awesome of all ages. [00:40:11] And 1,000,001 genders. Kira, everybody. [00:40:17] Thank you. [00:40:17] You don't really have to [00:40:19] do the worship. Okay, [00:40:21] Really? But don't you like it just a little bit? [00:40:26] And children? Would you like a few words as well? [00:40:29] Thank you. Yes, I would. [00:40:33] You know, what, 40 odd years ago when I used to do the streets around here, just one block over. I never thought that I would see a day when we could come together as a community and share our fabulousness with our city and our country. And I am so proud and humbled really, to be one amongst many who fought the good fight. Find us here sharing who we are. And being loved forward. I think we have a fabulous mayor of Wellington, who has embraced our community always and her political career. And I of course have been fortunate enough to be a representative not only of the water rapper, but in Parliament, about about gay community, and particularly our transgender community for me. And while we have substantially gained more rights than we thought we could in, there is still some way to go for some of our sector of our community. And we asked you to stand in solidarity with us as we continue those we fight that we have coming onto us. But more importantly, since we have been a country that has led the way in so many ways. We need to help our brothers and sisters and others around the world who are not enjoying the freedoms and liberties that we enjoy here. So thank you all for showing your support. Thank you to everyone who's had us as part of the super duper thing. But this is Adam the car park. And that was the love parade. [00:42:23] So my name is Megan Shipman. I'm here with inside out. And the reason why that I was inside out is because I really enjoy. I use based work, especially in the queer community. And I'm also starting with schools as well. And I think that it's [00:42:47] quite important to, I guess, further queer support and the youth community. Yeah. [00:42:55] So what does it inside out do? [00:42:57] And so they run QS says around from New Zealand, we also do the Day of Silence, and a whole bunch of different ways that we have. [00:43:10] Yeah, that's what we do. [00:43:12] What is the day of songs? [00:43:14] The Day of Silence is when we recognize transphobia and homophobia. And it's a way of saying that it's not okay. And [00:43:28] I guess because silence is more [00:43:32] snot, it's more of a peaceful purchase rather than overtly, you know, being out there. Yeah. [00:43:41] So is this the first right of incubation? [00:43:43] No, no, I've been to two hours in the squares. I've been to the next conference up in Auckland. I'm pretty involved. Yeah, I really enjoy it. It's a good environment. [00:43:59] So can you give me a taste of the kind of vibe what how does it feel [00:44:03] at this one here? [00:44:06] I think it's quite bubbly. And [00:44:10] because it's got a whole bunch of different things here. I just, [00:44:17] I love it. That's plain and simple. Yeah. [00:44:21] What do you reckon the biggest challenges facing rainbow people are in New Zealand and 2015? [00:44:29] I'd have to say, [00:44:33] for myself, it would be internal homophobia, and transphobia. And that sort of thing. Because you know, coming out to yourself as the biggest patch. And it can take even after you've come out to all of your friends and that sort of thing. You're still continuing that coming out process to yourself and continues throughout your life. I think that's the biggest thing here. [00:45:00] I'm Daisy, and I'm here because I'm here because I'm queer. [00:45:06] That's pretty much all there is to [00:45:07] it. Yeah. [00:45:09] So do you see which group you vote with? [00:45:11] So I go to schools out? Yeah. On Thursday after school. [00:45:15] What is that? [00:45:16] So it's a group and it's for like KU. [00:45:19] And we come along, and there's food. And we talk about who we are, and you know, all that stuff. [00:45:24] And it's just kind of a nice place. And it's really supportive. [00:45:27] And he runs really nice. Yeah. [00:45:29] So how long you been going? [00:45:31] I'm [00:45:32] not a long actually only about since the start of the [00:45:35] term? Maybe a little bit later. Yeah. [00:45:39] And how did you find out about it? [00:45:40] Well, a friend of mine when and that they were like, it's really cool. So I was like, oh, come along and find [00:45:45] out for myself. [00:45:47] And so I was your first kind of like fried of it. [00:45:49] Yeah, yes. Yeah. And have you found [00:45:52] it's pretty, it's really nice. It's really nice atmosphere, [00:45:54] it runs, you know, really happy. And yeah, I liked your performance earlier. [00:45:59] Can you describe like, what you're seeing? [00:46:02] Oh, that's [00:46:04] a lot of people. And they all look really [00:46:06] happy. And it seems like it runs just kind of, you know, enjoying themselves and it runs got the same idea in mind. We're all here to have fun. And, yeah. [00:46:16] So would you have like a message for somebody that hasn't found someone like School's out? You know? What, why? Why go? Well, it's [00:46:24] just, it's really good for support [00:46:25] and just to see, meet lots of people who are like you, and going through the same stuff that you are. [00:46:33] And, you know, just have a fun time with people who are like here. [00:46:38] I'm john, and this is my partner days, shortly to be my husband. And we've always been associated with the gay lesbian fair doesn't that was one of the prime movers when it started, and the Newtown school. And it's a wonderful opportunity to reassess where we are and to take advantage of the fact that this country is how such a long way since 1986. [00:47:03] I'd like to thank all the people who work very hard to get all this together. I think it's great, but them done. And we do feel both john and myself, visibility is important. And this is a way of being visible, and also having fun. And this is not only for gay lesbians or govt community, but for our friends as well. And I think that in itself is worth supporting. [00:47:28] So you are part of the founding, gay and lesbian here in Wilmington. You're the founding fathers. How does this compare to them? How about a truce changed? [00:47:38] attitudes from a because I can remember very clearly the very first fear when we didn't have opposition coming from what we called the T shirt boys. These are muscle boys who wore t shirts gay plus gay Eagles AIDS. And this was prior to homosexual law reform. Seven, first Thea was in 19, scene 86. [00:48:02] That was in [00:48:03] March, and the law was actually passed on the ninth of July night. [00:48:09] That the event was called a faithful fair law. And, but we did have a fun day, but it was all held at the Newtown school Hall. After some years, we expanded out to the playground and grew and grew. And finally on the 10th sphere, john did say, well, might be divorced. Because running on my arm, it was like I would start at the Bat August, getting it out, and you didn't have computers. So everything was by phone trees. And it was quite a lot of work. But [00:48:46] worthwhile, will say the same diversity of groups that were in the in the fear back then. Ah, [00:48:53] well, we probably was not as visible. And there was distinctly gay men and lesbians, and sometimes bisexual. They're working moments when you sort of had the call. [00:49:10] Yeah, and [00:49:12] it was. [00:49:13] Yes, it was. [00:49:16] Yeah, it was fun. We did have one favorite the top twins. And that was a real bonus. Because they drew a lot of people. And people like the top twins have created a lot of goodwill for the govt community. [00:49:33] And you said very briefly at the start that you're getting married [00:49:37] 10th anniversary of our civil union, almost to the [00:49:41] civil unions passed in 2005. That's right. So so you Right, right at the start. You were civil unions. And now you know, you're getting married? [00:49:49] That's right. first of May. We civil unions significant as CU one. That was the very first one and New Zealand. [00:49:58] The first ceremony? [00:50:00] Are you planning anything kind of logical? Okay. Oh, no, [00:50:03] we're always discreet. [00:50:09] But it was it was going to be small. [00:50:15] Yeah, I'm a volunteer guidance, Elaine dia. And I didn't feel that was a good idea to help delay India, with the funding by having it there. So will be held there [00:50:25] on the first of May. [00:50:26] And they have limited space, which is perhaps a good thing. [00:50:31] So are you having performance or? [00:50:34] So to keep that under head? [00:50:37] Oh, I don't know. We could say a little bit because [00:50:41] it could be a lot of fun. will be a lot of [00:50:43] fun. But the precise details have yet to be worked out. [00:50:49] What do you think? Something like the pride and the fear is important? [00:50:54] Well, as I said before, visibility, and also of us getting together and politically. That's all time Porter. It's we still have work to do is Georgina biopsied, who's a wonderful worker, wonderful speaker. And as Gina boss say, there's still work to be done in our community. There's a lot of work to be done for transgender people. And by getting together and being visible. And also hearing someone like Georgina Bah, that all helps. [00:51:28] Can you describe what you're seeing at [00:51:32] the moment as [00:51:36] a comedian, [00:51:38] Italian type of theater and a street theater and as marvelous and you got these people further down the road who looked like your skeletons. They've got these amazing costumes [00:51:52] all this wonderful electric something rather contraption with them for the music. Fabulous. [00:52:00] Nice, rather nice church got me up. [00:52:02] Oh, you better be a flesh that always helps. [00:52:09] So my name is Leslie bola. [00:52:12] And I'm here [00:52:13] supporting body positive. So today. [00:52:16] I'm boy Williams. And same a mere supporting the gay community. [00:52:21] Yeah, Wellington. Did you [00:52:23] guys march in the in the fruit? [00:52:25] No, no, no, we missed out my bloody. My bad driver was very slow this morning, because we had a big party last night. So we woke up late. But anyway, we're here. [00:52:36] And so you're on the store this afternoon? [00:52:38] Yes, I am. We have a few friends already volunteers for the positive. So we're just rotating, trying to get the message out [00:52:46] to everyone to support people [00:52:48] living with HIV. Yeah. [00:52:50] And how is that going? Is this still kind of stigma and discrimination in the community? [00:52:55] I think one of the big problems [00:52:56] we have in Wellington, that's my own observation. There's still self self stigma within every individual just to walk through that door to go up to the office to get the blood test. That's the people but people are slowly, slowly slowly coming out there. Be happy? [00:53:13] Why do you think this kind of visibility is so important? I think [00:53:18] it's it's an environment approach [00:53:20] where we want to get everyone involved so that they can see the different various organizations, what they're doing and also learning from the different and it doing it in a creative way where we have fun with it. messages, short messages going out there pamphlets, signboards people dressing up to express themselves. So various creative ways, which is really good. [00:53:43] I'm fine. I wait for New [00:53:46] Zealand police. We are here today receiving police as part of the diversity that we have. [00:53:53] What does it mean to be in a braid or feel like this? [00:53:58] From a personal speaker, it's bloody awesome. I love the culture, the atmosphere, the diversity, everything. I mean, people [00:54:08] are out there doing what they want doing, acting, how they want being what they want, and nobody cares. That's great. There's no no antagonism or anything. From a police perspective, it's also bloody awesome. Because we're out there in the community, showing the community or the wider govt communities that we are expecting we we look after all of New Zealand, regardless of the background, the culture, the beliefs, anything. So yeah, let's go. [00:54:40] A couple of weeks ago, in Oakland, there was the Pride Parade where a number of protesters came onto the street. And then there was some media coverage around how they were dealt with. How did that make you feel, personally in terms of I mean, people were quite down on police and corrections, how did you feel about that? I [00:55:01] didn't actually have too much involvement with it myself. [00:55:05] So I can't really comment on it, unfortunately. But the fact that these these, a little bit of antagonism out the full police as it's, it's one of those things that we have to get over. We're trying to break down the barriers and get rid of the antagonism and the perceived hatred towards police. We're trying to make it get rid of it completely, basically. So it was a bit of a downer. But it's one of those things that we just have to put up with, unfortunately, until there's more trust and confidence. [00:55:38] And how do you how do you kind of gain that more trust and confidence [00:55:42] by being here today? Basically, and just involving ourselves and, and being more diverse, be more empathetic, being more accepting of everybody? I mean, we are the police is an organization as the to serve the community, and what better way to serve the community than getting out there and being involved with the communities? [00:56:02] So have you ever experienced any kind of homophobia within the place itself for yourself? Personally, no, not? [00:56:10] This [00:56:12] the place itself has is very old school. [00:56:16] We do have a kind of a core of [00:56:22] a middle class white male coach, homophobe. That's, that's the understanding of how it is. That's how it how it always has been how it always will be. We're trying to break that. That's certainly not had that experience. And mighty news with the blind side. Yeah. [00:56:39] And just personally, in terms of being in places like this, like in the stores and and the pride. I mean, what does it mean to you personally? [00:56:48] Personally, I find it great. I mean, I love being gay myself, I love being out with, [00:56:55] with everybody in the community, seeing what everybody else has to offer. Not only themselves, but the group's all the little stores. It's just great seeing everybody here enjoying themselves. And that's the main part of just getting out there and enjoying yourself doing what you like. [00:57:11] Okay, cool. Hi, I'm Emma Anderson, and I'm from the Electoral Commission. I'm also from Wellington. And I'm just here enrolling people to vote, making sure people's details are up to date. And really happy to be out here marched in the Pride Parade. That was super fun. And yeah, just here to here to show my support. [00:57:32] So is it the fist Pride Parade? Yes, [00:57:34] it is. Yes. [00:57:35] It's great. And how was it? It was fantastic [00:57:36] force. [00:57:38] Yeah, what kind of feeling what's the vibe? [00:57:42] joyful, heavy? [00:57:45] Yeah, joy, joyful and happy and just proud to be at happy to be out there. [00:57:50] And why is it important? Do you think for things like pride parades, or the fear? [00:57:55] I think it's important so we can show [00:58:00] we can show that we're an inclusive, tolerant society, where diversity is welcomed. And yeah, and this is a sort of thing that we, we support as a society, which is a great, by the way. [00:58:17] So you'll be marching next year. [00:58:21] Naturally. [00:58:23] Hi, my name is Ron Irvine, and I'm from body positive. And we have a selection of information on HIV. But also, we're actually selling some rainbow colored goods just as a fundraiser [00:58:36] for body positive. Why is it important to be at something like this? [00:58:40] I think it's very important to be at something like this, because it's part of the rainbow community, we, we support the rainbow community, of course, a lot of our members, together with them to do with HIV come from the rainbow community. And I think we need to be out there. And I'd be proud of being gay by this being transsexual and intersex. [00:59:06] Yeah, I think I was talking to one of your colleagues before and they were talking about I said, Well, you know, one of the biggest things in New Zealand at the moment around HIV AIDS, and it was about self stigma. Would you agree with it? [00:59:19] Absolutely. Self stigma is one of the [00:59:23] bad things within our community. And, yeah, I certainly found that when I came to Wellington by when I when we first had our center opens, and I decided that I'd forget about all the oldest being secret, and you know, keeping in the closet regarding HIV. So I put a huge sign of illuminated sign across Courtney place and several of our members said, Oh, we can't do that, we can't do that. And I said, Well, times are changing. And I think it's very important that we do stand up and be proud of who we are. And so you know, within three months, I were back in the center. And I talked to them, and I said, you know, that is all self stigma. And we need to change that. And we're here to help you change that. And, yeah, within two or three months, they were back in the center and over it. And, yeah, I think it's very important. We do arrange that we have a range of services at body positive from now, when someone's recently diagnosed, we support them. We very important to have people that are HIV positive talking to newly diagnosed people, that peer support is crucial. And certainly, you know, coming from Auckland, where we've been there 20 years. And, you know, coming with being here now and Wellington for two and a half years, it's, it's great to have a center for positive people and their friends and supporters to come and have a coffee, have a chat, newly diagnosed people to come in and get that support. And to basically move on with life. I think it's very important. In the old days, it was like a death sentence, no longer words of a sentence nowadays. It's one pill a day that you take, eventually, it might take five to seven years before you actually do get onto that pill. But, you know, once you if you are HIV positive or diagnosed HIV positive, it's no longer that dead sentence. And it's great. There's no certainly no, no, no problems with HIV, the toxicity of the medication nowadays as as lyst and also the side effects Alice eventually will have you know, I've heard that will be having one injection every six months. That's on the horizon. So you know, and then of course, we're waiting for the Cure vaccination person, thank you. [01:01:47] I'm Little Miss cinnamon and we're here today with love your condom. So we are all about promoting safe sex within the the gaming community and we're giving away free condoms. And we've got a photo booth here. And we're just about selling diversity and unsafe sex and having a fantastic day here in Wellington, [01:02:05] can you describe what you're wearing? [01:02:06] I'm wearing a lot of sequins and a lot of ritual and a lot a lot of makeup. [01:02:12] You look amazing. Thank you very much. So is this the first part of it, you've been to [01:02:17] know I've just come from Christchurch pride. And we had Auckland pride as well. So now I do a lot of pride work around the country for that being proud. Yep. [01:02:26] So can you compare what is the what are the prides like in the various teams as well. How, how are they different? [01:02:32] I think each community is very unique. Wellington is obviously very artistic and very diverse and Bry ground roots. Christchurch is obviously we bit more conservative, but we're doing really, really well. venues are a big thing over the big issue there. And often is just fabulous, as always. Yeah. [01:02:57] So talk to me about a yc. So where does that come from it. [01:03:00] It's a safe sex campaign by the New Zealand AIDS Foundation. So we are all about love your condom, and we distribute condoms around New Zealand and just promoting safe sex and testing and wellbeing within our communities. [01:03:21] For you personally, what does it mean to be part of these kind of events? [01:03:25] And it's about visibility and celebration and awareness as well. So there's a lot of awareness and still needs to be made, especially around HIV. So yes, just said that being visible and spreading the word and yeah, informing people. [01:03:43] Hi, I'm saying I'm from Wellington and I work Firenze it American from almost a year now they're awesome company to work for awesome bank. Yeah. and support of you know, aliens it have been given the guys sponsor tech for everything. So massive achievement and a massive, quite honored to represent and represent and look out for the gay community. And just fit Let's be there for everyone. You know, backing them train beg for the type of cricket and everything. But so yeah, I'm quite proud of in a is it employee and customer. Yeah. [01:04:18] So NZ is actually supported quite a lot of LGBT events or what other events have a supporter and [01:04:25] the cricket, the Olympics, the Commonwealth Games, obviously, yeah, LGBT, the gay teams. [01:04:34] Obviously, on the path as well, [01:04:37] Chinese New Year. So there's so many events for holding, obviously, the nipple, and that's a small communities, large communities, New Zealand, nationally, internationally. [01:04:48] Always trying to help out as much as we can, as our motto is we live in your wealth. So we want to try to be there for is. [01:04:54] So why do you think having these events is so important, this kind of visibility? [01:04:59] And just to show that we care, that we are there for everyone, you know, we're not just a bank. We're out there trying to get amongst the community and trying to work with them and help them grow and grow business and just want to be there. Yeah. [01:05:13] Hi, I'm Chris Rogers. [01:05:16] And Berryman? [01:05:18] Yeah, we represent the Wellington kids particularly. We have a shelter in Kingston where we look after between 40 and 50 kids that are needing new homes, which, you know, takes quite a bit of money. So we like to get out and fundraise. selling stuff has been donated to us home baking gems, that sort of stuff. [01:05:39] That's us. [01:05:40] So describe for me what you've got on your store. [01:05:44] We have a selection of donated sort of brick or break. [01:05:48] We've got books, DVDs, we've got some lovely cards featuring Sunday kits done by one of the volunteers who's an illustrator. We have James we have pickles, shortbread cookies against fudge, home baking generally. [01:06:05] And you've got some very cute cats behind us on this on the board. Molly the third. [01:06:10] Molly, the third got adopted yesterday. Yay. But for all Diego has been with us for well over a year, still looking for his special someone. [01:06:20] What do you think, like days like this for the car park now why they important? [01:06:26] I think it's a really important way to you know, get the community out participating seeing what's out there. I mean, you know, the queer community in Wellington is incredibly diverse. And we're very proud to be part of it. [01:06:40] I'm alan alan Kwok of representing the Wellington front runners. And I'm Paul Rigby, also representing rights and front runners. [01:06:47] And what are the front runners? [01:06:49] They a running group [01:06:51] bag, [01:06:52] sort of a gay lesbian running group that runs on the Thursday evening and Sunday morning. [01:07:00] How long have you guys been associated with a while I've been running [01:07:03] on and off for the last [01:07:07] you. You're obviously from America, and you did a center time a few years ago. And then you've come back recently by first join nine years ago. Say we joined a few months back. Yeah, it's been a great group. You know, it's a wonderful group of people. You know, you can just socialize while you get stage and healthy and usually go for brunch afterwards. Yeah, yeah, we kind [01:07:28] of kind of unofficial slogan is that we run to brunch? Yeah. [01:07:33] My name is Damien estrogen. I'm the executive director of the fourth stage of stepping out games, taking part in Auckland. 3222, February 2016, only 10 months away. Now, majority of interest from the community here in Wellington to take part in the culture of the human rights, the sports festival runs for a week, there's a lot happening. It's gonna be great fun. So coming up to walk them. I attended the 2011 ones here in Wellington, and they just went off. I mean, there was such a buzz around the city. The same simple sort of thing mean volunteers two games ago, we've had the game games in Darwin last year, and sort of building on the successes from both of those events. It's getting its own traction now. The international community is getting used to come to these events. We've got great buy in from Melbourne and Sydney to Melbourne to Sydney. So they'll be sending over a large contingent of people and we've got to go through those Ozzy's, we've got to bring the middle of filming New Zealand So, [01:08:19] get training, [01:08:20] get out there and come and join in. If you can't join in, come and volunteer just come and spectate. There's a there's an opening for everybody. So what kind of sports are going to be prison sports running from Britain chest through to the contact sports like touch rugby. There's hockey, softball, soccer, softball, swimming, competition, ocean swims, track and field events. There's long balls, 10 balls, there's 20 odd sports in there. So there's something for everybody. Again, if you're a sportsman, common trail, common throw a discus common throw a hammer for the high jump, long jump and want to do something. And in terms of the kind of cultural activities around around the event. on capital side, we've got a couple of stage shows running through the week, specifically as part of the out games. They'll be wine tasting tours to white Hickey. They'll be a Valentine's evening dinner with the cultural show spectacular will also be trips to the altars volcanoes going to the donkey walk and get some understanding of that they'll be a whole lot happening. I mean, there's too much to mention right now. And in Wellington there was a human rights conference has been repeated in Auckland, but isn't a bit of a kicking off with the with the youth who which is a get together of the youth of New Zealand, Australia on the Pacific Islands. It's going to be two or three days of youth directing themselves as they want to, to perform undertake an event not being directed by so called adults. And then the Human Rights kicks off at the end of that festival and runs for three, three and a half days. And therefore human rights Festival, where obviously speakers with key local speakers, local interest groups, and trying to get away from the sort of the classroom [01:09:56] festival, going to sort of more groups, discussion groups focus groups of breakout groups of people facilitated just throwing ideas around and gets really active discussions and generate some projects and legacy projects to run after the games. And so have you been competing in previous games? Like I've been unwilling to the Darwin how games also the world without games, the games and cologne. So those four events over the last five years and a half medals? [01:10:26] So if I can do it, anyone can do it. [01:10:29] My name is Angela wells. I'm a local face painter body artist. And I'm just here cuz I've done out in the well out in the square and then out in the park, you know, picked up for the last three years. So yeah, we we were rained out at first and that was a bit of a bummer. But hey, now we're out in the sun. The weather's nice for now. So that's great. So just still looking forward to just painting and glittering people you know can't tell on audio but I'm currently covering my my non dominant arm with rainbows and stars, you know, just for funds ease and for advertising. [01:11:03] So this is a face and body kind of school. What is the most extreme thing that you've done? [01:11:09] What I've done Um, well I haven't had much business yet today because we're only just starting out. Although I did give someone a rainbow Mohawk he had like a nice like smooth bald head. And we were just like, like, what should we do any more rainbows? How about like a rainbow Mohawk with like a heart in the front? He looks like a superhero. It's pretty awesome. [01:11:26] What do you think these events are so important? [01:11:28] Oh, god, it's just like, because things aren't they aren't getting better, but like incrementally slowly. And it's important since the inception of like pride marches that there is visibility because there's so much suppression in in the modern era, well, contemporary era, like societies in throughout across the world have had various levels of acceptance of queer transgender Lee generally non conforming people. And [01:11:53] there was just a wave of you know, conservatism [01:11:55] and imperialism over the past couple centuries. But what it was was it was suppressing not only a lot of traditional cultures, but it was also suppressing just just human nature. Some people just, you know, some people are queer, some people are trans get over it, you know, so it really should be no big deal. But I think until we get to a point where, you know, people who are, you know, queer, trans, you know, different whatever, are just seen as just just, you know, whatever, some people are different ones, it's no longer a big deal. Maybe we won't need fairs like this will just be sort of just a thing of the past. You know, I look forward to a future where it's just sort of everyone's allowed to just do their own thing. [01:12:33] I'm Ellen and I'm on the stole la Lucas Wellington's lesbian library. And each year, we sell books, we sell them for $2 each. And then they some of them get better than the way we sell them. The next year. We've been, we've been doing this at the clear, fair and Wellington since 1994. We also sell white elephant and it's wonderful. So there are lots of stuff to frustrate people killing by suffering, give us money. We love it. [01:13:01] Can you give me an example of some of the books that you've got? [01:13:04] Well, all the sort of hot lesbian, erotic short story books have gone already. Like come in early for that young women and grab them. [01:13:14] We've got classics, we go back to just about the start of last surgery. [01:13:21] And lots of modern stuff as well. Lots of fancy from 70s 80s 90s classics, and some of the not so hot ones. But that's all right. They were they tried, they wrote books. [01:13:34] And you say this is line that can work what is mine like? [01:13:37] largely because Wellington's there's been library, you can find out about us a lot of these bm.net. Darren said, we've been operating since 1994, and Wellington. So that's over 20 years as a Linden library, books, DVDs, once we had videos, magazines, it's an organization, their members can do not pay an annual subscription on a sliding scale, and then all borrow this free. Nowadays, we also do events and that wonderful room, such as speed data, talks by interesting people like women and including trans women from the military, police, women, all sorts of interesting people. [01:14:21] So why did it Why was it established in 1994? Was there any particular reason [01:14:25] they impetus to start us on the first agonizing meetings 293 which was women's suffrage here. And lots of women were coming out like myself, and it was a year when things were getting moving. So to this BNC worked in the National Library than the Evans and Glenda Gail coordinating at the YWCA and interested women including all of this being library. town turned up and we spent months plotting and planning a library. [01:14:58] Yeah, so my name is Elizabeth Marshall. I run rainbow Radha and also Color Me kitchen. Rainbow rato is all about everything colored so anything and everything rainbow that you can think of, for your house your head to yourself, a little bit of pride and flair. And color my kitchen is my commentary venture doing cooking parties and classes and also specialty cakes and catering. [01:15:25] Took me through some of the things that you've got on display. [01:15:27] So I've got quite a wide range. Some of the stuff I make myself so I've got what in letters that have rainbow buttons and sock monkey kits and sock monkeys pitfalls that are hand painted with Paul prints, Rainbow paw prints and boxes rainbow pet colors, pride bumper stickers, mugs rainbow mugs that have hand painted and platters. I've hand painted jewelry, lots of pride jewelry, lanyards flags. [01:15:59] Yeah, there's a lot here actually. [01:16:01] bowls [01:16:02] for the kids or for you dogs. [01:16:05] But yeah, pet friendly. kid friendly. family friendly. [01:16:10] So are you touring around the country with us at various price? Or? [01:16:13] Um, no, I haven't been I would love to i right now for me, it's a little bit more of a hobby. My culinary stuff was kind of taking over and taking a bit more of my time because I'm doing a lot of private classes and cooking classes and stuff and cakes, lots of vegan wedding cake over this weekend, which was massive. So um, but I would love to I would love I don't think there's enough pride stores in New Zealand. They're all based offshore. So. And it's always great to get people involved that are local, like we're Wellington and are the woman who makes our dog collar. She's Wellington based the sock monkey makers Wellington base. So if there are artists or people out there who are doing rainbow things, or making rainbow things that I can sell on their behalf, you know, it's nice to have a little community feel to it. [01:17:01] So my name is Neil Ballantine, and I'm with the group, which we're currently calling ourselves, faith communities united in love. And so we're a bunch of essentially different faith groups, but and also different Christian churches coming together. Particularly in response to the guy, the Baptist gentleman in Oakland, who was talking about killing the gays, we thought that was really important to have a group of people of faith coming together to say, actually, we're much more pro the LGBT community than people think. And so yeah, we come together, to have a store here. And also to deliver a petition asking the government to retrospectively pardon those men who are convicted for homosexual acts before law reform and 86. And this is also joining with British campaign as well, that started, especially in response to the movie. [01:17:53] Tell me what it's called OC. [01:17:55] game. Yeah, The Imitation Game that was talking about Alan Turing. And so around that time, the Queen actually pardon Ellen churn, [01:18:02] but no one else, [01:18:04] funnily enough, and so there's a British campaign that Benedict Cumberbatch actually started as Alan Turing in the movie is also pushing and Britain to get all the others partners as well. So so we're sort of joining with that. But we think as five committees especially important for us to be giving this petition to the public, because we recognize that religion would have had a significant part to play and those sodomy laws and the first place so [01:18:29] so how far down the track, are you with the petition? [01:18:32] So a gentleman called would mo was the guy who put it together, and he started at late last year, sort of, I think, was September, October last year. And so we don't really have an actual goal in mind of how many signatures but we're probably going to deliver it to Parliament within the next couple months. So we just sort of clicking the final now there is an online petition as well, so people can jump on board and and [01:18:54] check that out. And so what will that mean for people with convictions? [01:19:00] I'm not sure the exact legal process, what's going to happen? I think the exact wording of the legislation that needs to be passed in order to have it happen is still to be worked out. But essentially, is asking the government to look at it and then to figure out the process. From there. They have the legal expertise to figure out exactly what the process would be, you know, [01:19:16] and so it would have happened be something like it would be removed from the record. And, [01:19:21] yes, that'll be the case. But again, it's it's probably less about the actual practicalities of it and more about the idea of it, because it's about the government officially saying Actually, this legislation was wrong. It should never have happened. And we're sorry that we put you guys through this. That's the main reason. [01:19:36] Do you have any idea about how many people [01:19:38] know sorry, I don't know the numbers? Well, again, we need the government to actually look through that and look it up and work through that. Yeah. [01:19:45] And have you had people that have been convicted that kind of now putting themselves forward and the public is to get their convictions watched? [01:19:53] No, but we'd love to have him here would love to have some role models, as well as sort of Yeah, show the face behind what what this is about? Yeah, that'd be awesome. [01:20:01] Why do you think something like this Pride parade and also that kind of album, the car park is important. [01:20:11] I think it's incredibly important to have pride events to keep it on the public's radar that I our communities out there in beta, we actually have a lot of stuff that we still need to be working for. There's There's still justice out there. And there's still [01:20:29] I think a lot of [01:20:31] how the public conceives the queer community still needs to upgrade itself, if you know what I mean. So yeah, so we've got marriage equality, and that's really awesome. But there's, there's a risk of that with marriage equality, people go up, okay, that's all the rights you need. It's done kind of thing. And so I think it's like this show that we're still actually a marginalized group. And actually as much as we can come together and celebrate our differences, but also ecologically for us for the change in the future and to really still integrate ourselves as as a key part of what a society and people appreciate and affirm that we are part of a wider society. And so it's a nice thing. It's part of Cuba duper, as well, that it's not an isolated Amina sign that it is actually part of a wider thing. [01:21:12] So what do you think the biggest challenges are for kind of rainbow communities and New Zealand and in 2015, [01:21:18] great Christian, outside is probably too many areas, which I would like to say for the work done on one with the adoption law reform. And that is happening, but it really slow right? So I think that needs to grow. So kicking the pants, regards to campaign around that. And secondly, trans issues is still huge. gender diversity is still not very well recognized in New Zealand. And support financially for transition surgeries and that kind of thing is chronically underfunded. And even schools can be incredibly impressive places in regards to how genes represented and that kind of thing still very binary identity and representation that comes from so. So as a society, we need to get our head around gender diversity, why more

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