NXT:15 - LGBTIQ Youth Leaders Conference

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[00:00:00] This podcast is brought to you by pride in the.com. Gareth support from the rule foundation. [00:00:07] My name is Ben Hardiman. And my organization is called equation. [00:00:13] It has the conference faithfully. [00:00:15] The conference has been really good because I'm not only we have some Asian faces out there the conference. It, everyone also learned a lot from each other. Like we learned a lot from other Pacifica organizations and etc. And, and they also learned a lot about Asians as well. So that's quite fascinating for everyone. [00:00:41] What was your highlight? [00:00:44] Well, there's quite a few highlights. I think, during the next 15 youth leaders conference, one would be on the presentation that was talking about the last language, well, the language of the LGBT IQ people. As the nation progresses, part of the language was being lost. And also, we still want to retain our history. And we want the history to be documented, so that the future generations can learn what happened in the past and New Zealand as well. So all that hard work and discrimination and the lives that were lost with not in vain. And this also are the highlights such as this gentleman, David from the Long Island, talking about how he started an organization called legacy. And how, from one little branch may open to other branches across Long Island and the struggles that they had, putting those up when they have lots of options positions against them, having the centers open, very close to churches and very close to very traditional families. And they managed to open several centers and encourage a whole lot of other people to be happy about themselves. And a lot of those members, it's kind of like in New Zealand as well, like, how a lot of them were suicidal, have a lot of depression was not very happy. And, and suddenly they have this or these like really safe spaces, and they can be proud of themselves, and have marches and parades and etc. So that's some of the highlights. And of course, FEMA and I did a presentation about why it's important that other organizations needs to include on Asians as well, because with minority within a minority. And there's also a lot of problems in the Asian communities that not many people would know or talked about, which is taboo in the Asian communities. [00:03:12] What do you take away from [00:03:15] friendships, I've met a lot of really awesome people and future youth leaders from all sorts of different organizations throughout New Zealand, and also throughout the Pacific as well. So that's very fascinating to have people coming in all the way from Cook Islands to to Oakland just to attend this amazing conference. Getting to know one another. And [00:03:43] I'm Melissa Jensen, and I come from, I guess the organization I came representing is called femme sex, female sexuality. [00:03:55] How's the conference been free. [00:03:57] It's been awesome. It's hard to articulate into one kind of sentence or theme, because, like, editor at this stage of it burned out by all these kind of new ideas and like asleep. [00:04:14] So I think that people [00:04:18] like as we got into the conference, develop their ideas more, and the conversations got better and better. second, and third day. [00:04:28] What were your highlights? [00:04:31] It was great to have some strong women on the panel today. I think meeting, like networking and meeting with a whole bunch of new people. Well, me was a was a highlight. In that he didn't he wasn't scared to, like, share himself. And really kind of go there and ask questions and push those Yeah, push boundaries that I wasn't really expecting. [00:05:12] Anything you'd like to see for next time? It wasn't? [00:05:16] Yeah, more talk about bisexuality and pen sexuality. I actually counted the number of times people use the word gay and lesbian today, and it was in one session. And it was 27 compared to seven times with the acronym LGBT or LGBT QI. But when Had it been, it was never actually bisexuality or pen sexuality. Or so I think. I think we, I wanted to raise this is discussion of course we run out of time. I think this? Yeah, it's funny how it ends up being about mana sexual identities and like, [00:06:04] so [00:06:06] I think, yeah, I would like to see more of me represented there. And what that what that means and more people kind of saying I'm bisexual or pen sexual, or just yeah, talking about that experience, like coming up, is that experience or just living life? Is that experience? [00:06:26] differently and went alone? Yeah. And, and what will you take away from that? [00:06:34] It was interesting to see how people do things differently in their different organizations. So that got me thinking, because I do things one way. And it was also great to take away that international perspective, both the US and the Pacific. I guess we sometimes think of the Pacific as part of us, but in another way it is international, like it is more than just local, like its local, International. I don't know how to explain. Also, yeah, also, what one thing that money Mitchell said, we're 12% 12% like, yeah, I'll community makes up 12%. And that, what if we could have 12% of funding? to do to the thing, so just that? Yeah, there's a lot of us, which is the theme of the conference. [00:07:33] My name is Andrew, and I'm from Oakland, [00:07:36] and how's the conference been? [00:07:38] Fantastic, really challenging and an opportunity for growth. So [00:07:45] it's been a lot of fun. And [00:07:51] I think really being around like people who really take up the mantle of being authorities on their own identity. And being able to sort of experience someone who really just wields their, the the agenda and in the sexuality and in with such confidence in ways that are inspiring and [00:08:20] you know, really good for self reflection, as well. [00:08:25] As anything you'd like to say, the next one that you felt was missing. [00:08:29] I think there wasn't enough discussion of the sexual community, the age in the community, a romanticism [00:08:42] is great sexuality and [00:08:48] in, I suppose [00:08:51] Yeah, sort of the the list, [00:08:55] secret verte [00:08:57] side of the of the quake community [00:09:00] sort of doesn't, doesn't often get represented, because it's not a very loud voice in a in a, I suppose in a in a community that has historically grown out of a struggle, not just not just to be able to love who you love, but it grew out of the stigmatism, around sex in specifically agree, you know, starkly New Zealand and Britain. [00:09:29] And so I feel like [00:09:33] it's really important for the rainbow community to recognize that into make adjustments to to actually make space within within the community for those voices. Rather than expecting them to, to perform at the same decibel, right? I suppose the really cool thing is to is to see all of these new organizations, and people starting to work together and to unite their communities and particularly with like equation and with rainbow youth. And [00:10:16] some of the more [00:10:20] you know, the more the more I suppose advanced organizations sort of coming together, and starting to deal with those really, really tough issues at the intersections between racism and sexism, homophobia, transphobia, by phobia. And having this this new generation of people with new ideas, looking to tackle these problems. So it's, [00:10:46] yeah, I suppose, [00:10:48] as, as an academic, I think a qualitative research is a huge part of my motivation, to actually be here to be present in the next generation. And in those new voices, see what they want, what they have to say, and the new dynamics of the queer community, and take that away and actually try and produce something that reflects the kind of times to stay updated, because so often, sort of an academia doesn't. But yeah, so I suppose I'd like to take that away, and use use that to [00:11:33] give something back to the community that [00:11:36] suits them, that they won't get asked for that look, the dialogue and discourse around. So it's not just this paternalistic analysis of this, which so often is the case. [00:11:51] And can you please tell me your name and [00:11:54] organization, wellness, [00:11:56] name's Robbie Van Dyke, and I was the conference coordinator for it 15, as well as next 14 and last year. [00:12:04] How's the conference been for you? [00:12:06] It's been really different this year, which was awesome. Last year was a lot more people. And it was really full on lots of speakers sort of talking at us a little bit more than with us. And so this year, we tried to make it a bit more conversational, but more youth run a bit more youth LED. And I'm really happy with how it turned out this year. [00:12:28] Well, you'll highlight [00:12:30] my highlights we're [00:12:33] seeing [00:12:35] all the youth come together and really start to tackle and discuss the really important underlying issues. And I really enjoyed how we had representation from some of our marginalized communities within our queer family. [00:12:53] Anything you'd like to see next time? [00:12:57] I'm Todd to say, really, lots, but you can only fit so much into a weekend, I'd really like to see more discussion around how to actively interact and associate and include all of our marginalized communities. I think that for me is a big issue, as well as working on a way to develop a national network for sharing resources. [00:13:23] What will you take away from the conference? [00:13:27] I'll take away a couple of things. One of the things which is I guess, slightly negative, that came out of one of the speakers was that nothing is certain and nothing is forever. So our work is never going to be 100%. Done, or guaranteed, which is a bit terrifying. But also, it gives us something to continue to strive for. I think that's really the main thing for me. [00:13:51] Um, can you please tell me your name and organization we've come from [00:13:55] clear from you and youth, which is organization that's focused on civics education primarily for high school students, also university students, and it's run across the country. How was the conference, we? It was really fantastic. It was great to meet people from so many different queer focus organizations and just make those connections and learn about what people are doing. [00:14:19] What were your highlights? [00:14:21] And I think the the two panels, the Pacific Island panel, and then the equation of not panel, but the equation discussion, were both really valuable and interesting. [00:14:34] What did you get out of it? [00:14:36] I'm just a different perspective and reminder that the western way that we think about sort of LGBT Q is not the only way of thinking about things. So there are these different cultural perspectives that are worth remembering? [00:14:49] Is there anything you'd like to say at the next one that wasn't at this one? [00:14:54] Nothing that immediately comes to mind just continuing to get like the really diverse attendance and different perspectives on things. [00:15:04] And what we take away [00:15:07] lots of really great connections, I think I'm definitely going to be able to go forward and get involved with them some more things, having met all these amazing people doing amazing projects across the country. [00:15:19] My name is Simon Rama. I'm from Fiji. And I'm here for the massive TED conference on behalf of an LGBT q organization in Fiji called the lateral movement, which stands for Well, the line in English term is rainbows. It's like a rainbow moment. [00:15:45] And yeah. [00:15:47] How's the conference been for you? [00:15:49] Oh, it's been great. [00:15:53] I wasn't expecting this much. There was like a lot of like, just open dialogue. This, you know, with a critical issues being spread across the room. Well, it's been great. It's been a good experience. Yeah. lovely people. Good energy. So much knowledge on the issue of entropy take you I'm like, Oh, my God. I'm just so happy that I came. Yeah. [00:16:23] And one of the highlights being see [00:16:26] the highlights. Yeah. The highlights for me would be [00:16:33] well, to be part of the family that, you know, the LGBT IQ community will probably see way more. So yeah, the rainbow community here in New Zealand and from the other two Pacific Island countries. I think it's the memories that we have all made. [00:16:53] The [00:16:55] available Yeah, the widespread [00:17:00] spectrum of this. [00:17:04] For the minority grew up like, yeah, that's, I think that's the most [00:17:10] that's the highlight moment for me. And yeah, probably be part of the battle. I think that was also a highlight moment. I really enjoyed it. [00:17:22] Is anything you'd like to see happen at the next one that wasn't? [00:17:25] Yeah, I'm in the next conference. Um, [00:17:31] well, [00:17:32] uh, probably just include the other. I think it's a great job that the organizers together with the US Embassy of New Zealand, have done with other Tachyon organizers here in New Zealand. But I think in terms of inclusiveness, maybe speaking in terms of like the broader Pacific, just, it would be great to see other Pacific Island countries as well, that were not part of this forum, to be able to be [00:18:06] part of the problem next year, which will be really good. Because I think [00:18:13] different countries have different ways of I mean, have different issues, with different moments on how to protect you, and it'd be really nice for them to share the experience. What will [00:18:28] you take away? Oh, I'm taking a lot, I think, yeah. [00:18:35] It was this like a tangible item. In terms like the knowledge everything, I probably going back with an KG of word, knowledge. It's been great. Yeah, a thing. It's the experience alone. It has been great. But it's the issues, the issues that were made a given out the challenges and ways to counter these challenges. And it's been really good. And this is what I'm taking back. I've learned like a lot in terms of like, how to go into, like, deal with LGBT IQ issues back in Fiji. I love a lot of information that we given out in terms of like, the different projects they're working on. And I would like to like do the same thing in Fiji. And it's Yeah, I think that's what I'm taking back. Yeah. And yes, with the friendship as well. [00:19:40] Hi, I'm Kevin Kevin Schuster. I come from south, I'm from Samoa. And I was actually I was actually just selected by the US embassy to come for the conference, this summer own form of any association that I am not part of how I established the the fall female association called various artists, for all of our females and the National University of Samore. Interestingly, there were some straight guys and girls that joined the association. And it kind of died out. Well, that was my last year of the year of studies in uni. So I left straight after and I knew it continued, but just the beginning of this year, we relaunched the association, and we're looking at everything, like our Constitution, and everything like that. [00:20:43] How is the conference been free, [00:20:45] but conferences was really eye opening in terms of now, for the first time that I've been exposed to terms like LTTBQ. And then just today, early today, I learned a lot of other new things like a sexuality and, you know, etc, etc. Also, [00:21:13] in terms of, [00:21:17] you know, gay man, listening in women, we've never before come together under roof, and just and talked openly about our sexuality, gender identification, and all that. So in the past three days, for the conference, you know, I, I can only hope that the world out there is just this these people. Yeah, because I'm talking about, I was also uncomfortable in the first place to sort of discuss my sexuality, because there were straight guys, to me, but you know, their game in that also, fantastic and lovely ladies, that, you know, I just found, like, you know, they're, you know, they're all interested in, you know, same sex relationship, and that [00:22:13] the highlights, we, [00:22:15] the highlights was, I would say, [00:22:22] the, the parallel sessions that we had yesterday, I was very, very interested in the how our discussion was facilitated on the topic of governance. And also, interestingly, the situations that were given as scenarios. And also, today, during when we were panel, we were panel members, and, you know, been given the opportunity to talk freely, and, you know, convincingly about famous against a gay man, not against us in you know, going against them. But you know, the terms from have been in it. And the perception of it in some more, and here in New Zealand, and also vice versa. [00:23:16] Yeah, I think those were the highlights. [00:23:20] Is there anything you'd like to say at the next one talks about or people there that went at this one? I think, [00:23:30] for the next conference, [00:23:33] I recommend that the Pacific Islanders as a sort of well briefed a full of them coming. And it's really, I think, the of the Westin, members or money in the back has the pylon, yes, they're very interested in hearing our voices, preferably all together. So if we were to sort of, you know, current dialogue, like a month before the conference, so that we sort of come prepared with something from so that we don't have, we don't have disagreements and that kind of thing. Like we kind of, you don't have to really have a structured presentation. And we just keep talking about our culture, but nothing really, from us, soda, soda really brought that out that, you know, we do our peak, we are really people from, from very rich cultures, like the presentation that we did today, I think ideally, would be, you know, it's our culture that we give. So it would have been nice if we all planned before the conference, that we would give like little things for maybe all the participants, not, I mean, you don't really want something of value, but you know, something, because that really reflects our culture of giving. [00:25:07] And what you take away from the corporate, [00:25:09] oh, the fact that there's lesbians KLTTPQ, like they said, street guys and girls actually joined our association at the National University. Now, I know, maybe maybe some of these men that joined. And also women that joined are also gay themselves, the lesbians, but you know, they're just, there's nothing to really discuss, like, you know, well, maybe they're thinking that, you know, something is wrong with them. But you know, that's why we need to have this conversation. [00:25:47] My name is Tanya Billingsley. Organization on what is inside out, and I've come up from Wellington for the conference. [00:25:52] How did you find [00:25:56] my friend? Yeah, good. Lots of really amazing people there. And I think some discussions here that will need to be heard, especially around [00:26:08] like, [00:26:10] the guests like Pacifica idea, say, and community and also like Asian stuff. Yeah. [00:26:20] What were your highlights? [00:26:22] Just the people there that are really awesome. That people that were attending, [00:26:31] is there anything that wasn't happening at this conference, and that you'd like to see next? [00:26:39] I think maybe [00:26:42] more youth [00:26:46] or more [00:26:48] young people speaking like it was, a lot of the stuff was young people speaking, but [00:26:55] I think that Eddie used conference, like, it's really important to like, like, look at actually what people are doing in New Zealand and how amazing it is and hear from them. Like maybe rather than having people come like from the States, you know, the money that went towards, that could have gone to getting gone towards getting more people to come to the thing with a New Zealand or something like that. And, you know, you have people in New Zealand who are able to deliver kind of this, like, equally as awesome, like stuff. So, yeah, and one thing I would also suggest is that as it like, things, I've been to a similar like, it's really awesome if everybody is staying in the same location. So if we all did sound them at it, because it was a really awesome way for people to be able to kind of spend time together and network and just kind of form more of a bond over the weekend. And cheaper for them an easier than finding like a combination throughout the city and opening split up and yeah. [00:28:01] And what do you think your takeaway from the corporate [00:28:04] I really enjoyed? So one of the talks was on governance, good governance, and I really feel like I got a lot from that. And I'm going to continue like following up on that and learning about it. [00:28:17] And also [00:28:23] this hates this just hates I'm also on like, engaging with community on the thing that tonight presented. I really like that. And just hate to stuff and like, just I think the biggest thing is the takeaway is kind of the bike, amazing people that we meet and like how to further work with them. Yeah. [00:28:46] My name is Toby Bisley. And I came from Wellington and my organization is inside out. I found the conference really good, it was really awesome to have that opportunity to get lots of our kind of young leaders in New Zealand together to kind of make and Connect and Learn more about each other's different organizations and things like that. Yes, it was a really cool opportunity. And I wish I could have been more of my highlights for probably kind of meeting the amazing people that were there. And some of the kind of workshops and speakers were really great. There was a really amazing talk by well beings kind of about the last language of the queer community and lots of these words that some that are still used in society and some that have kind of died out. But we started in our community and just kind of learning more about that and other kind of history of like, it's the rainbow community in New Zealand was really interesting and kind of looking at what happened with the AIDS quote and get all sorts of really interesting stuff. So really likes the talk, and the panel from the delegates that came from the Pacific Islands. They got to kind of speak about sexuality and gender, and the different cultures and what it's like their and their experience was and it was a really cool opportunity to learn more about that and look at the differences between New Zealand and places like somehow. And equation which is awesome group for kind of Asians and the rainbow community that started up in Auckland about a year ago, they got to do a really cool talk about what things are like for people in a community as well. And I think that was a really great thing for everyone to be able to listen to. [00:30:49] Yeah, there was heaps of really cool stuff. [00:30:53] And I think just kind of getting our communities together [00:30:57] was really great. [00:31:01] Next time, I'd love to see more discussion around kind of bisexuality and others, kind of minority sexualities. There's a big discussion about kind of a sexuality in a room. But bisexual kind of a whole weekend, the only time it was mentioned was as part of the LGBT acronym, which was kind of really disappointing. And it was kind of No, no bisexual speakers or just kind of that was never talked about women, bisexual people are kind of some of the most risk in our community facing at least within lesbian, gay and bisexual communities. They're facing kind of the kind of worse mental health experiences and yet another kind of those bad statistics so I think it's really important that we give some attention to bisexual and pen sexual and [00:31:55] fluid identities [00:31:58] and future. [00:32:00] Well, I take away [00:32:03] I think I'll take away the awesome connections I've made with some other organizations around the country. And definitely kind of more learning about sexuality and gender and kind of Pacific and Asian context. And, yeah, more about the history of our community. And also it's really, um, yeah, it was really great.

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