Queer-Straight Alliances - Marriage Equality Conference

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[00:00:00] This podcast is brought to you by marriage equality campaign Wellington and proud NZ com. [00:00:07] Hey, so we're Teddy Griffin and Tommy aware, [00:00:13] at era. So this is a little statement that us, we aim to empower young people to take up leadership opportunity, a positive change in those things and connect with other youth leaders. [00:00:25] So just tell you a little bit about the history. So we rose out of work that was done in that Nelson region, where basically, there was an organization set up called Keith, which is a community group, kind of like schools out in Wellington. [00:00:40] And we worked with all of the most of the schools in the region to set up Christian support groups in the schools. [00:00:46] And seemed like a model that works really well and really, like, necessary. [00:00:52] So I became really passionate about spreading it and thinking, why doesn't the whole country has this opportunity. So myself and these people, and Joseph, and some others, founders PSA networks this year. [00:01:08] The idea did come out last year, and we ran a first project, which was the high school diversity. Tom will tell you more about that. This year, our main projects was running a national Hawaii, which we did in July, and Wellington. And we had people come from all over the country for that. And, and recently, we've registered as a charitable trust, which is really exciting because everything we've been doing is voluntary. And basically, I've been doing this as a kind of job all year, but not getting paid for it. So I'm really excited to hopefully get some funding for the new year. And that will really labor last [00:01:41] week. So then mission [00:01:45] is. [00:01:47] So we really want to leave curious as to each other between schools and connect community resources for discipleship and training. And yet, so we support young humans strengthening and sustaining Tuesday's when building festivity to create a space for children, students can socialize in a safe environment, provide support for students who might be facing issues such as bullying, in spread awareness about homophobia transphobia, religion run into Ba ba ba. [00:02:22] Oh, yeah. [00:02:23] So [00:02:27] here. So here are some interesting stats, and they're from the association a yesterday from the 2007 survey from 100 different hospitals, I think it was. And yes, so why we needed one and 12 identify assignment, both six attractors and 88% of you know, by the time they're 15, 54% [00:02:51] of careers have been Hello, hams competed. 42% of straight years. [00:02:56] Yeah, those who are bullied five times as many were bullied because they a gay off because people thought that gay [00:03:03] creators are three times more likely to get depressed and straight use and create home creators six times more likely to attempt suicide. [00:03:11] And so those statistics are from 2007. But let's see, there was another survey commissioned. So next year, we'll get the new statistics. There's also one done in 2001. And between 2001 and 2007, things didn't change much at all. So it'll be really interesting to see the new set statistics, which also survey changed into and decrease in high school. So really excited to find out more about them. [00:03:41] So this is the more specifics about the balloon and see, like if you have to talk more about why we really needed [00:03:49] the balloons a lot [00:03:51] more for young people who, effectively saying before, [00:03:58] people, [00:04:00] yeah, this one's quite interesting. A lot of them, don't go to school and start lighting and things like that, because it's not a safe place for them to be. So having a QA school really just provide that safe environment, even if it's only once a week is somewhere within the school, they could go. [00:04:19] So this is some of the stuff that what we can offer. [00:04:25] I say what we can offer, but because we're not funded that moment, that is all voluntary, and there's a lot more and a lot wider that we want to go with this. So resources we've got [00:04:36] working with, I believe, this is a pack on starting your day with the group or Christie lights, got hit some information, [00:04:44] which is really awesome. [00:04:48] And we really want to like make our website or really like kind of one stop shop for information around bullying in schools and Christian alliances and diversity groups. And because there's not really resources or information out there, there's this book that nobody really knows that it's out there. So it's we're passionate about spreading that and letting people know that there is somewhere they can go for support for this kind of stuff, and support. And one thing, we're really keen on starting this kind of regional chicken groups around the country, for QA leaders in that region. So we're just starting at one in Wellington. And it's a chance for all of the student leaders of those groups in the region to come together and share their challenges and stories and maybe collaborate on some stuff. So it can be quite isolating to lead a group like that in the school. So giving opportunities for people to come together. And [00:05:38] she [00:05:42] will also available, kind of we're based out of Wellington, but we are a national organization. So we're really happy to do email, phone, Skype support and person we can with passionate about getting out to rural areas and getting support. One day, hopefully we'll have regional coordinators around the country, but it's probably a bit Tara. [00:06:05] Yeah, so I don't know if you mentioned already. So one of the really great things we do for networking is we have national hallways. And so recent one this year, we had QA leaders from all around New Zealand come together and all kind of work together and learn about leadership and work together. So connecting QA groups between schools, but also within the community, like we talked about earlier. And yeah, Kelly mentioned the original chickens, that would be really great for so not only connecting with other national groups, but within cities and areas. [00:06:40] And online, again, I think like especially once the website is more of a one stop shop, but especially young people, like online and Facebook, and that kind of communications really works really well with that generation. So you know, that's something that we really came to continue doing and we're doing is supporting leaders online. [00:07:05] Education. [00:07:08] So we can offer education for the leaders of QA groups, and for the groups and in the schools for setting up maintaining strengthening QA groups and workshops on leadership. And some of those will do it. Who is other times we might go into schools and help as individual groups. And we also offer a diversity education package, which is run by Rainbow youth. And that's available through half classes. But we can also give it to like anyone really community groups and workplaces. Schools in general. [00:07:43] Yeah, and that's a really amazing accessible package of information. And it kind of focuses on sexual orientation gender, it interesting focuses really on youth, but it's applicable to kind of working well with any anyone is queer. Yeah. [00:08:00] That package is especially great, because it's not like, you need to be nice to be gay people or anything like that. It's kind of quite activity focused on interactive, and it gets people kind of thinking themselves. Oh, yeah, that's a problem, what can we do about it, and especially with the students, so it's really cool thing about it. [00:08:19] And another thing is National campaigns. So one of the things I think is really cool about Christian alliances and schools is that they have the power to change the culture of the whole school. [00:08:29] By so it doesn't need to just be a social support group for a few people in the school has the power to change things throughout the school. So some of the ideas we have for this, you probably have heard of like picture day. And this happens in quite a few schools around the country. But wouldn't it be awesome if they were all really doing that. And it's around anti bullying, if you don't know. Another one is the Day of Silence. And that's a day where people take the mouse and don't speak for the day to represent the silence that a lot of people go through about the idea peace, and I have a little card that explains why they're doing. And that's really popular with schools, because especially the junior students, I would have to talk to the day. So they they do it because it's fun and rebellious or something. through doing it, they find out, they have this card and the stickers and stuff in it. Like they supporting all the stuff even if that's not the original reason they did it, they get to learn about it, and help spread awareness. [00:09:26] Oh, yeah, the International Day of it gets homophobia and transphobia is another one. And there's lots more. So things like that would really like to kind of have happening and lots and lots of schools around the country to really spread that awareness and maybe get some good media attention around it as well. [00:09:44] So I'll tell you a little bit about the high school diversity tour, that was something [00:09:49] that was done by the executive director of Keith and Nelson at the time, Stewart, and Olympian, speed skater blocks up, and they told 18 schools across New Zealand speaking in school to families, about homophobic bullying. So that was really powerful to have like as a New Zealand athlete, standing up and saying that he was getting back on impact, I think a lot of students just because of the way our cultural museums around. [00:10:20] And that talk really focused on going to rural areas, because there's already there's more support and some of the main centers, and there are areas of [00:10:30] total [00:10:34] feedback. So one third of the schools versus haven't set up as Chris said, Lance is the result of the tool. All of this goes afforded really good feedback from both the students and the staff. [00:10:44] So we'd love to do something like that, again, [00:10:51] kind of really talked about the theory of it. So it's just a couple of photos from Italy, we ran in July, that's something we want to do at least annually. And such a success, amazing experience. And you can just say, for a lot of young people that it's the first time they've ever been in an environment like that that's been impressive and fully accepted them for who they are. And you can just like see that change in them? Really, really amazing. [00:11:15] So how did this one go, and hundred percent the participants were satisfied with the project, especially at MIT and even the community, we just tend to gamify had the chance [00:11:24] is a few quotes from young people. [00:11:31] At rich quick, so this is what we've been doing kind of in the last few months. And again, because there are support groups and the main centers, [00:11:40] etc. For queer youth have is still not that much in schools. And it's a lot more than there is in some places. So we've been doing some work and wondered if possible. And last week, we were in South Auckland, which is wonderful, but they all share these big stories and they sang to us. [00:12:00] They're now setting up for Chris dreadlocks. She's awesome. [00:12:05] closet space, and MongoDB, which is this whole Facebook group. Lots of started some work with some of the high schools around there to get groups new schools because the bullying there is just shocking. So we're hoping to get there early next year, we're going to continue that [00:12:21] sort of bit of put something about marriage equality. And so we're encouraging Christian alliances all over the country to get into groups and individuals in the groups to submit on the bill. So as he who sitting down writing a big submission might not be the best way to get them to do it. So I suggested, you know, be creative with it, make a video maker [00:12:43] buttons and take photos and make a slideshow and CNET and things like that. So these are some from phones, nothing goes polish. [00:12:53] This one got famous on Tumblr, [00:12:57] internet blogging. [00:13:02] So maybe I'll open for any questions, then I thought maybe we could just go around and people could introduce themselves and say anything that has come up to them if you want to talk about what school was like for you? [00:13:15] How, if you have any ways to help us be awesome, because we don't have [00:13:22] any resources. [00:13:25] Yeah, and anything you'd like to talk about, I guess I guess a Christians maybe I'm going to sit tonight like this, because I've never been involved with this. I never seen one really happen. So I'm really interested to know how I the way I perceive it to be, there are a small group of people involved in this safe social environment, and they put the rest of the school. It's kind of very separate. So I understand what you're saying about that, like the small group can influence the culture. Okay, so I'm wondering how that happens. Like, how does it go from being the gays? Yeah. [00:14:03] I mean, there's, I think there's a variety between depend on your school and how accepting it is and you know, and the group and how comfortable they are being fab in the school, because I [00:14:15] think, yes, the group wants to do school wide debates and activities, and kind of really promote themselves and it becomes part of the school culture. I went to Leyland college and Nelson, where we had next which is alliance of faith and strengths, which I changed lives and sticks. And that was probably the first way straight Latin Australasia, just really exciting. And over the time, it's good next year to we have been going for 10 years. And the time I was at the school leaving, I just saw the culture of the team, culture of the school change. Even just saying that so gay. [00:14:56] By the end of the time, I was leaving school people, someone said it teacher or another student would kind of call you up on it. And there was no, it wasn't really tolerated, which is, you can say that for a lot of school within [00:15:11] the advocacy of both the stripe and the queer students like going out to the wider school community and saying, hey, this isn't okay. And this, you know, marginalizes the community and educating from a US perspective, to a youth perspective, there's zero strength, but [00:15:25] I think also having supportive staff members to get on board and stand with the group [00:15:31] is brilliant. [00:15:34] And yet having where you kind of encourage people like the student leaders of the schools, peer mentors, things like that to them to join the group or actively supported because they looked up to in the school as the, you know, they didn't really like the popular academic. well liked people. So to see people like that supporting the equestrian landscape, this can be a really powerful thing for the rest of the sculptor kind of weapons. [00:15:58] And talking to Australia person when I was at a leadership course was we went to Neyland college, she said that she felt because of the existence of negs that she was so much safer to be whoever the hell she wants to be. Whether that was queer, straight into gaming, or into something else than anything, she's got phrase by herself because of the existence of this group that advocate for diversity. [00:16:23] Yeah, I guess that's another thing about these groups, they came to a text. I'm not just queer people who are in a minority, but like, [00:16:31] anyone who's different of doesn't really feel that they've got a place they can kind of say that, which is really nice. [00:16:40] teachers. [00:16:45] Teachers should be taking care of [00:16:47] their own problems in the sense that [00:16:52] because they've stuck out [00:17:00] prestigious itself. Yeah. [00:17:03] But that's not exactly the students you [00:17:06] should be [00:17:08] getting, I'm trying. [00:17:12] Absolutely, we've got good luck to the PTA, and the rainbow testicle sort of networks have been really helpful with with me on the network. So we haven't done much with teachers. But one thing I'd really like to do at some point is kind of a Hawaii for teachers and guidance counselors who support the students in these groups or out in the schools because I think, yeah, I talked with him to come together and be really powerful. [00:17:47] Yes, yeah. Uncle was [00:17:50] a bit education package that we're doing. As an exercise, the network teaches them that that's, you know, what do you really mean when you say that, and we use an example where we use someone's name? And then, you know, how would you feel? How do you feel after you know, terms that being said, multiple times a day, I'm really Mexico understand. And then that's kind of where we sit in challenge. So next week, when we come back to the next session with you see if you can not say it, and the whole week will say less than you normally do, and will encourage them to take up the challenge. So the more than that education package can get into schools? [00:18:26] Oh, it's everywhere. Yeah. [00:18:33] I heard it in primary school. I've been hearing it since I was five. And that's just [00:18:39] not. [00:18:42] For me, I find that I don't like the word gay to identify myself, because it's been so derogatory [00:19:00] demonstrates that by going up to [00:19:06] Yeah, saying that ranking is developed the education package before that. So getting in it, so I'm not sure if they did or not. And [00:19:19] operating? [00:19:26] donated? Yeah, yeah. [00:19:30] Well, we're national. So we offer it in a way. There aren't any groups currently, entertainment this year in Christ it. [00:19:40] That's an area that we really want to try and get to next year. That's a matter of how much there [00:19:50] just to build on that. I mean, I'd be [00:19:52] quite happy. And I'm sure some of the people [00:19:55] in the brain [00:20:00] coming [00:20:04] out a conservative country. [00:20:09] Muslim just ready to face [00:20:12] the stories that are [00:20:16] being here. [00:20:20] liberation, you know, you came to [00:20:24] providing us examples from [00:20:25] experience. [00:20:42] I think that's something that really works as well, because it's hard for an outside organization to go into a school and say, Hey, you, when you have quit students, and they're not, you know, they're being bullied and all this is happening, do something about it, we can't really do that. Which is probably why there isn't the schools, you really need people who have been to that school or in school currently to kind of stand up for teachers and guidance counselors as well, to say, you know, there's a problem, I've experienced it, I've seen it happening. And I want to do something about it. To get differently, former students telling me stories, [00:21:33] on terms [00:21:33] of how we can express that. [00:21:39] I think, from my perspective, I felt that I had a lot to learn about connecting with people from some own cultures and so on. [00:21:52] Just mainly because the way that we talked about six orientation and gender identity is very different. We also went to the tech top just before that, and we kind of felt the same thing. [00:22:04] So yeah, I feel like we've got a lot to learn, but from the people relating to us, straightaway, they were like telling their stories, and it was, yeah, [00:22:13] all we needed to do was tell stories, like I just had a really, you know, generic story about how I felt like I was the only guy in my village. [00:22:23] And then they like, poured out [00:22:24] their hearts, you know, and so they just connected with us on that level to [00:22:28] hear all the people who've been through school, and we're just recently out of still had survived, you know, and identify, you know, [00:22:39] this may be a really stupid question, [00:22:41] because [00:22:44] how much money would a single human [00:22:48] need to sustain itself? [00:22:51] That's a hard question. Because the cure side, and the schools don't necessarily, like, it's not a necessity to have managed run a group in a school. [00:23:02] My, my group we did, we had a bank account within the school, and we did fundraisers, so we could go to the police who ease and buy food for our meetings and things like that, which is really great. But those can be self sustained. But to support those groups from our organization, [00:23:20] I'm gonna can't say how much money that would take, like, if we're talking about a whole country, and I guess another base, and I was passionate about solving the success. Because I had been in the group at my school that had [00:23:32] been going for nearly 10 years. And it was really awesome. But I often heard from other young people, that I would meet the crazies and stuff, we tried to set up a group that didn't really work, you know, which is good to do it again. Yeah, Tommy had an experience with his group can go anywhere, you know, [00:23:49] I don't have appropriate support. I didn't have someone that was like, really entrepreneur, his eyes and knew you know about my problems. And we're well equipped enough to, you know, deal with them. And that's the real value of this organization is that they're focusing on high school groups, curious eyes. [00:24:08] So we wanted to put the Q Si, and our high school would be this way for us to the students directly, or at least go through you guys. [00:24:24] I would suggest if you have students who are currently at the high school, talk to them, tell them about us see, if it's something that interested in doing, that would be really awesome. And then we can spot you need to bring us in to support them otherwise, yeah. So as we have been saying, groups just aren't getting the support. And they don't know how, how to run a group. What do you do in a group? How do you make it impossible that stuff? So [00:24:48] how do you keep members? How do you get new members? How do you get juniors involved, etc. So that's the kind of stuff that we talked about, teach it out, please. So it's really important for people to as many people to come along to those as possible. [00:25:01] resources, everyone. So [00:25:03] yeah, we really want to be able to build those resources and get more connections in different regions so that we can get get support people in different regions and guest speakers to go into meetings and things like that. [00:25:21] cultural groups, Christian groups, etc. [00:25:25] That's a good question. And we promote that it's really awesome to engage with other groups in the school. At my school, we would have like shared lunches with the Christian group, and it works really well. We respected each other's opinions. And that was really cool to kind of say that, and show that [00:25:44] you can have all those other parts of your identity as well. acknowledge those, I guess. And things like Amnesty International groups and schools that are quite good groups to work on the side. So [00:25:56] I think it's good to do that. [00:26:00] Not really a question, but sort of come from a young man who, I'm a teacher, and I didn't teach other schools, [00:26:08] principles, but the fact that was the gay teachers, and teachers who supported those gay teachers, we gave the support to the students. And I think, you know, you've got context with the PPT of the room and group etc, in the PTA. And if someone was wanting to set up for growth in the school, it would be good to see the the third grade teachers who are out on that school, and then approached them as well. [00:26:42] Cool, so maybe I should we start around. And if you got any more questions or anything you want to say, say as we do that, [00:26:51] William [00:26:53] high school wasn't terribly exciting. Yeah. [00:27:01] I'm a dear. I'm a teacher librarian went to high school, which is a non uniform, liberal code. And assertive school has been a gay, christening transgender exit for group on the school for a large number of years. But one of the things I was thinking about when you were talking was that, you know, to get some of those resources into a school library would be incredibly good entering the school counselors. [00:27:33] So there were things like that, that I school library, [00:27:36] or a teacher who's supportive can actually do to make people feel more comfortable. And I mean, we've actually had students come [00:27:49] resistors, Queens, with their heels, and their wigs and makeup and been just accepted into classes if that was normal. [00:28:00] Hi, I'm Natalie, I am co chair Emily was love, like at all. And, and that's really good to hear about that. And I'm really grateful for that, because I have a perception of what q essays might look like. And it's, that's somewhat different to that. So I'm really glad to be enlightened. And also good to be good to have a chat bit later about how you engage in youth and these kind of diversity issues. Because I'm patient about bringing in at a younger age and talking about diversity within primary education. And so that's really interesting to see how you tackle those ideas that this is an adult issue and that it's a no go area. So yeah, thanks. [00:28:42] I'm also from legalized [00:28:44] marketer. [00:28:47] I'm quite interested in education on my early childhood teacher. So talk about diversity. [00:28:53] Talk about diversity at a young age is quite important to me. And and we've been talking a little bit about [00:28:58] setting up some que si [00:29:00] type thing, and why cancer so interesting. [00:29:07] I'm Mari from legalize love. And [00:29:12] I've had the privilege of being to a few USA who is which completely blew my mind. [00:29:19] Not until a fairly high school, unfortunately. But um, I just think they're really exciting. Just because I was really amazed by the way, the young people talk about sexuality and gender in like, such a fluid and all embracing way that like we just don't do in the queer community. Well, not that I experienced before going first things I was [00:29:39] really excited. [00:29:43] Cool on onset, I'm [00:29:44] also just just finishing you need this yet. So I'm not too far out of high school either. [00:29:48] I kind of had one of those [00:29:50] boring, stereotypical, my high school was kind of a funny guy in a village type environment as well. [00:29:56] But one point that I thought I just want to echo that was made earlier is that I think we should lights is a fantastic and the more the better. But I think something that really needs to happen is to provide more ways for young people to interact with and expressive sexuality. So not just being able to draw a straight lines, but being able to access more information about it go to parties and groups, organized by groups like q essays. And so to see sort of that she was developed more, but also to use those as a springboard for other ways in which young people can sort of find out more about or express this, he thought it would be great because I found that when I came to university and all those things, but [00:30:34] here in open to me, [00:30:35] but if I had that open to me, those types of opportunities open to me when I was in high school. Yeah, would have been awesome. [00:30:43] Well, I'm Cameron, I'm from Christchurch. I don't really have any other other comment about from I went to the most fantastic High School in the world High School. [00:30:52] No, [00:30:54] it was popular to be gay. As soon as you come out. everybody's like, Oh, my gosh, you might be sprinkled on the back. Sorry, [00:31:03] basically. [00:31:05] So [00:31:09] Jane Smith, and a couple of years out of high school. [00:31:13] Yeah, probably nothing [00:31:14] to add to that. But first, I'm here. Thank you. [00:31:19] I'm Emma. I also went to school and Nelson, but not Nolan college, and maybe unfortunately, I'm not sure. In. Yeah. [00:31:29] I just think they may be like, well, I so I'm straight. But I'm just really supportive of like queer rights and stuff like that, largely because my really close friend from high school, committed suicide, he was gay. And it still breaks my heart, like every day. And so, like, maybe an influence, like, I can't ignore the campaign, it's the wrong word, but like, a, like a what to do if you feel suicidal or feel depressed? Or, you know, you know, it's getting too much kind of, like emphasis or something, or would be really useful. Because I mean, I know he struggled with such thoughts for like, years before he actually started. So yeah. [00:32:17] Yeah. [00:32:20] Let me coach. [00:32:23] I know. Yeah, I know, I think it's changed quite a lot like because I finished in 2006. And like, even the difference between like when my brother finished in 2009, and in May was quite staggering, yet. [00:32:39] Killer didn't realize what the Sukkot was. [00:32:44] The so I went to a Modi boarding school and brought up in the Molly environment. The I think, Chris, right alliances is amazing. And that the Alliance aspect of it and the outreach of your particular group to create a spies for top way to tell these stories is fantastic. [00:33:06] On the cultural side, [00:33:08] that's another debate that goes on within the culture, [00:33:11] but they were values within the culture such as alohar, menarche, China [00:33:17] with one another, [00:33:19] that will combat that side of things, but to be able to create a space to allow Molly or any other cultures, to express themselves and to allow themselves to talk about their sexuality and gender identity, or however they want to express themselves would be a great Valley. I feel. So Coca [00:33:42] Cola, I'm Kevin and I live in gray mouth, put our winter school Hamilton and the 1970s. And we didn't have a que si group and Hamilton Boys High. Hi. I don't know if I have one now. [00:34:02] Doesn't seem likely. [00:34:05] I have [00:34:05] I have have always had that fantasy of going back to my high school and, and educating them on what life is really about. It's never, they've never invited [00:34:21] I came across the idea of cure sighs in probably about 1990 when Kathleen Levin was promoting the idea, and I must say at the time, I thought [00:34:34] this is never never going to work. [00:34:38] And I was completely wrong, which I'm very pleased about. And so what I'm focused on at the moment is [00:34:46] doing some work with with Mari on [00:34:51] kind of what the top down response be like so, so if, if, if I get to be part of the government, or what the water the policies that we want to put in place to facilitate [00:35:05] the having cure size in every school [00:35:09] in a whole bunch of other policies that will become nationally standard. So that's kind of this this where I said no, but I'm also interested in the the bottom of how can we resource the Curtis car [00:35:21] now. [00:35:25] Judah, I'm Sarah, and it's really great to hear you guys talk, I love the work that you're doing. [00:35:33] And I just think God would have been amazing, you know, and as it school and [00:35:39] you know, I suppose I think, you know, someone of my age, you know, now we've all lost a lot of people. And it might not have happened, you know, if this had been around longer. So you know, awesome work. [00:35:54] I'm also along with Jim, I'm involved in out of work, which is, you know, Union week and I'm just thinking, you know, listening to how you guys operate. I'm thinking all there's lots of lessons here, you know, that we can learn and our work like for making safe workplaces as well. So yeah, I'm gonna talk to you guys more. [00:36:17] everyone, my name is Joseph, I'm with legalize left Wellington, [00:36:20] I've had the pleasure of being to quite a few homies that cures any work and careers have put on [00:36:28] one of the law, the single best experience so far [00:36:31] has been the most recent one where I was [00:36:33] like helping to organize. [00:36:35] And some of the, you know, some of the younger people came up and at the start of the Hurry, like anyone else, they sort of said, You know, I feel like, I don't know many people here, it's an uncomfortable experience, yada, yada, yada. At the end of verse, they said, this is not only an accepting place, this is the single most accepting and loving atmosphere that I've ever encountered in my life. And that mirrored my personal experience down to a tee, it was just wonderful to actually see this replicated, and people that are just coming. So [00:37:04] I actually I can't emphasize enough how absolutely heartwarming and empowering, [00:37:10] the curious and it work, and it's always are. And I think that you know if the world could be like, life and and one of those ways, even will be honest. [00:37:25] My name is Robert. And obviously, I'm a you might all know me by now. But I'm the conference chair. And I went to seven Boys High School, which, right at the bottom of the country, almost. You can imagine what it would be like. But [00:37:41] I mean, I think one of the things that I didn't know as well what it was like to be queer at all. So I came out quite late. It wasn't until I was well, two years ago, then I came out. And I think it's been quite an amazing feat in itself. And while I wasn't outside was very supportive of the community. And we did try to set up [00:38:06] a unique view on campus a messy Albany. Well, I was student president. And while it was unsuccessful while I was there, I mean big, unfortunately was welcome back by the community. And they have changed just by putting that little people into this for the water. And while I wasn't successful, you go back on the canvas. And, you know, we everywhere, as you see so many fabulous looking people, and so happy just to be here. And and that's what we didn't have when I was in a car with a but to be able to do this in schools is that effect as well. So well done. [00:38:48] Yeah. [00:38:51] I love [00:38:54] you guys are doing an amazing job. And I think it's really inspiring. And I think being in schools, where it's at, I remember I went to school and comes to north. I really love being school, but I was felt really isolated. And it was a really difficult experience to speak. I mentioned tag along to the local unique you and claim claiming to be straight. And that kind of got me through high school. So I'm really excited to hear that there's a q&a, say at my own school. And I think this, The curious thing is, is the opportunity to really revolutionize the environments that our young people are operating in at school and have a really positive impact on our suicide rates and mental health rates in the community. Yeah, so thank you. [00:39:45] I'm Jim, [00:39:47] as interested to hear that you were you working early, in early two years teaching. I was just been thoroughly outed by my great nephew at services, candy. It's a an interesting experience. [00:40:03] Nobody did that to anybody when I attended my first instrument for school as a child, I guess. So things have sort of changed, I think quite a lot. He had a he very firmly before candy actually told me that I was a girl. [00:40:19] I think that I couldn't work out whether it was logic that it worked out or somebody suggested in fact, somewhat speak. Highly unlikely. It's it's been an interesting experience, because obviously, [00:40:33] it's quite obvious that in some respects that there's no reason why kids of that age should be prejudiced. Really. [00:40:40] I mean, because that's really not where their heads are at. I think so solid, it's a it is a problem. I'm sure. I haven't really tapped into any of the other parents that are going, I'm only doing this well, possibly temporarily. I just filling in, you know, but here I got announced as Uncle Jim, basically, who lives with Uncle Liam right. And that was [00:41:04] sort of an interesting experience, really. But I'm not sure where it's going to go on. I don't really know what the other parents feel. I've been taking up your points about the word gay, for instance, if he called me gay, then [00:41:17] it could well be that they had to translate. You know, I think they did supposed to be out. It wasn't gay, cuz I was sort of awful. It was gay because I had a, you know, sexuality that was gay. So it's an interesting, it's an interesting thing really supposed to be all too obvious to suggest that doing stuff with early years, kids could help an awful lot. [00:41:42] Certainly, there's a mixture of [00:41:45] heritage in the kids that he's worth. [00:41:49] Because it's obviously a very welcoming environment for people, broadly, by and the teachers of different Heritage's as well, you know, so of it's obvious that [00:42:02] the only thing in the way is that we just don't wear it quite so forcefully in front, but kids make sure you do really I made a spelling out of them. I think when it's that one, so you don't [00:42:17] cure I'm module. [00:42:19] First of all, I'd like to thank you guys, for all the support I've received up upon failure and what you've done. I echo what Kevin says, in terms of changing it from the top down as well. Certainly what I've seen is amazing support from the kids for each other. You know, I mean, they've just been amazing to each other straight kids, for queer kids, it's just been brilliant watching that support. [00:42:40] Yet, from an institutional sense, in terms of actually where this prejudice comes from. It's been put on the kids from the top, it's not there. It's like Jim saying, you know, these kids are not born prejudiced. It's something we do to them as a society. And I'm using that as a great big way, you know, terms of society. And that's what needs to change. And I think it's really important. Certainly, I see, you know, like, all the teachers that I work with, so many are supportive, and so many are terrified to say anything, there's a real atmosphere there of being while you'll lose your job on the right, [00:43:17] you know, [00:43:18] but that fear is wrong, it's absolutely wrong. And we need more openness in schools, we need more transparency. And where the school is not prepared to do that, what we need to do is have a QA in the area where those kids can go to in the interim, until we can make the school [00:43:37] do that. Why that I don't mean PD for the teachers, which generally can be a large waste of time, because a lot of them are already very open to that. But the senior management teams tend to be so conservative, and so much of that spectrum of a much older New Zealand that just is not open to different cultures. And that's where we need to be working those senior management teams and those principles, they need to realize that the world's turned, it's changed, and it's time to accept that and get on with it and celebrate it. [00:44:13] Move ransomware went to college, in a little place called Laverne. And I didn't have any trouble because when I mentioned to mom that maybe won't do the whole kids a marriage thing, she thought that I'd get paid. So [00:44:30] to reassure my mom, make sure that she didn't worry while I was at college. And all I did was make sure that those rugby eggs knew that I would punch their head and if they gave me any grief, so I'm a bit like Muftis. [00:44:47] I never saw it as a problem. So um, if you [00:44:52] if you have the energy of not taking any homophobic thing, I don't think it happens is bad because they know. It's an unacceptable [00:45:03] kind of thing. [00:45:06] Yeah. [00:45:12] My name is Andrew. And there's just a couple of things I want to know is on here. I'm from Dayton, and I went to john McGlashan college. So on one hand, I can also understand where moves coming from where, in some places, there's an attitude that sort of you've got, so stand up with physical violence, but in a lot of ways, I also seen that as being completely not okay. And I'm really glad there are systems like the Q essays that allow these children and youth to group together as a community. The two things I want to note on here was one that I've just finished a preliminary study of Q essays and schools dealing with these issues, that even those aren't eliminated, I found that there was a strong correlation between distance to support networks and Q essays, and the level of sort of homophobia that's seen inside of the schools. So that's I'm looking forward to looking into further. And the second is that I was recently in London, and I was in a store talking with one of the staff members, and they casually use the word gay in conversation as a reference to bed. And I first walked away from this, but then decided that I couldn't went back and confronted them about this. And the response I got, well, the one that I was expecting was one of basically being told to stop off. Instead, the response I got was one that was very apologetic, very understanding and then a conversation followed, where we talked about this now this young men had just finished high school had just left kings High School, which is also very conservative, and also was a young Mora youth and what out standard me, there was an Nathan with the attitude was, you had to be a hard man, especially, please excuse any stereotypes, but spiritually in a very watch place like Canadian, where marine Pacific Island youth aren't allowed to show any sort of acceptance of other students that aren't sort of your typical rugby players. It was just so great to see this complete attitude shift. So I would encourage you guys to use this opportunity, and for all the stuff that's happening around the campaign to find that break into the South Island, and use this chance to build on it. [00:47:55] Hi, there, my name's Chris, I want survived five years and that is high school. [00:48:03] And my overriding memory of that time is just complete alienation and isolation. And not say and that's when you talked about this taping of the mouth, as I just so relate to that. Was that's exactly how it was. I was never bullied. I was never, but I was completely silent. And, [00:48:27] and I suppose my life has just been a slow process of [00:48:32] falling, that tape of my mouth, continues to this day. So I really congratulate you guys. Fantastic. [00:48:44] Kiera, I'm Margaret name. And I'm sorry, it was a little bit late coming into the session. And one of the reasons I was late is that I was talking to somebody who was still being somebody in their 50s, who's been persecuted because of their sexuality by by conservative Christians. So I think it is so important to get the message that you're giving out to young people. You know, I went to Crikey, diocesan school and tomorrow in the 70s. And it was it was being a girl in thinking you might be gay wish to cross my mind. At the time, though, it took me a long time to kind of come to terms with it. It was much easier, I think, because girls can have really close friendships and hug and hold hands. And you know, and we all you know, you can have girl crushes on head prefix and all that sort of stuff. That's completely fine, but was the in. But now I have an association with Queen Margaret college. As Presbyterian minister, it's Andy Andrews, and I was on the board for six years. And I think I think church schools are still an area that needs to be addressed in to be encouraged. And one of the and I think that by having an outlet being on a board in my involvement in leading worship for the school, that was sort of a good message that they seemed even though they weren't really particularly a verse about that. But I know that the girls who needed to know new, and I was really thrilled when I went to speak to the school's out group a few couple of years ago, and they're these girls and Queen Margaret uniforms. And yeah, so I think it's really important that suggested that somebody made that there'll be sort of off campus places for people to go as well, and so that they can meet work. And you know, and I think that issues are still huge for people and provinces and rural areas and really support whatever you can do an area. [00:50:26] Code. Okay. Thank you, everyone. And maybe if there's any final questions or comments. [00:50:37] Okay, cool. Thank you all so much. Feel free to come up and talk to us about anything that's come up for you. And yet, remember, our Facebook thing gets a little know that we exist because we are new, and it's really important to kind of get the word out there, especially to people working or studying in schools. Yeah, thanks. 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