Farida Sultana - Decolonise Your Minds hui

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[00:00:00] This podcast is brought to you by pride in z.com. In association with the people of color decolonization Hawaii, [00:00:10] I thought I talked a little bit about my own experience, and the way I see the world in my eyes, and [00:00:18] it might be boring. If it is morning, [00:00:20] please feel free to fall asleep, and [00:00:24] then have your eyes open. [00:00:29] And [00:00:33] I think it was [00:00:36] 1991 [00:00:38] when, [00:00:40] as a client, I went to check the women's refuge [00:00:42] in UK, I passed that and did a query for for feminists. And I thought Wow, it's so cool. And I was a [00:00:53] young mother with [00:00:55] with [00:00:56] young daughter, for me was was bigger picture [00:01:00] was abused. I didn't link the abuse with anything else. [00:01:06] And I thought [00:01:07] was likely to have a day [00:01:10] not working. And sitting around talking about whole lot of the interesting [00:01:14] thing I didn't even understand that time. [00:01:19] And after many years when there [00:01:22] was a queen Hamilton [00:01:25] few Mario men [00:01:26] called me feminist, I thought what they probably [00:01:29] talking about someone else. And I remember national collective CEO, she called me from my bed, I can say, [00:01:36] it's okay with you, [00:01:38] and said, Wow, what did I do for a minute? [00:01:43] I thought big feminist, [00:01:45] you have to be somebody that was in my mind, you have to be [00:01:49] outspoken, you have to write you have. What I was doing is was what needed to be done in front of me life cycle. [00:01:57] And basically it was coping mechanism. What do you think hopefully [00:02:00] the situation calls into you. [00:02:03] And [00:02:05] later on, I asked one of my friend, you know, they called me feminist today. [00:02:11] This is good [00:02:11] overhead. [00:02:14] I said, I have no [00:02:15] idea. [00:02:18] Since then, [00:02:18] there [00:02:20] was many things I did. And it got [00:02:23] attached my close friends who know [00:02:27] the way [00:02:27] I lead the way I think [00:02:29] they always tell me that you are not [00:02:32] only feminist, your radical feminist, but [00:02:35] polish it down because our community is not ready. [00:02:40] Even when I stood for election, [00:02:42] I remember my advisor within the party told me [00:02:45] polish it down for that because the community is not really [00:02:51] my portion is how [00:02:52] long to polish it down. [00:02:55] You can polish it down, you can dress according to the society. You can walk according to the society. But how long how many of my generation is over as I told you, I mean, [00:03:09] middle age, mature age, [00:03:11] but I [00:03:12] don't want Sasha Menjou or people like yourself to polish it down. Because if you polish it down is is going to linen down. [00:03:22] That piece of advice. I don't like to call it [00:03:25] feminist [00:03:26] of radical feminist, but [00:03:28] I feel that needed to happen. The community [00:03:30] is not ready unless we are ready to challenge it. [00:03:36] When I was writing the book reflecting back in my [00:03:41] younger days, [00:03:42] I realize [00:03:43] couple of my aunties were feminist, maybe they didn't know their feminist. [00:03:48] They worked out on their marriage. They did farming by themselves. They didn't really bring up their children face to go and challenge community leaders. [00:04:00] I had a lot of those challenges. Then I look back and I feel now baby. There wasn't theory. They didn't have a workshop, but they live their life [00:04:13] as a feminist, [00:04:15] which they were stigmatized by the rest of the family members. [00:04:19] When I grew up, my mother always told me [00:04:21] not to be like my aunties. [00:04:25] Always, do not sit like your aunties bloated, like your auntie, do not talk like your aunties. When I cut my hair short, [00:04:33] my mother told me [00:04:34] now there is no way to stop. You know, even cut your hair from my Auntie's had a very short hair, that's not common in Bangladesh. [00:04:43] I said my hair for my mother said [00:04:45] whatever it is, but you shouldn't have cut it short. But my [00:04:48] mother lived with it. With my mother, she's lived it, I've probably given a lot to live. But [00:04:58] that's what it is more do is step out of the circle [00:05:02] is going to be a challenge. And it is a individual challenge, or it is a challenge as a group. [00:05:10] I feel looking at the young people, you are blessed to have each other when the challenge comes. [00:05:16] Like, like myself, I didn't, [00:05:19] I had my friends [00:05:20] who actually families, [00:05:22] but they wouldn't act like a feminist [00:05:24] because they have to, they [00:05:27] have to conform the society. [00:05:31] Six seven [00:05:32] other woman who started chatting with me, if I look back, and if some of you probably don't know, Shaq, this organization, started 15 years ago in New Zealand, [00:05:43] we started [00:05:45] because there was a large number of immigrant women who [00:05:49] came to New Zealand and refugee women. [00:05:52] But there wasn't a place where these women could go simply learn English language, [00:05:58] communicate with each other how the coping with the new country. [00:06:03] Usually community organization, they have their [00:06:07] association or societies, which is members everything, they have [00:06:12] a token woman in the committee, [00:06:15] which would be [00:06:16] cultural secretary, or or [00:06:20] off [00:06:20] probably cooking secretary, [00:06:22] the rest of the world will be done by the [00:06:26] men sitting in the table, [00:06:28] including a console. Some of you probably know about ethnic Council. But the women will be making tea in the kitchen. That's their contribution, right? That gets done in the kitchen. [00:06:41] And [00:06:42] the most of the work will be done by the men in the front. And this was a platform where women could sit down and talk and learn English, get get to know [00:06:54] each other bad, unfortunate circumstances. [00:06:58] I think we had a [00:06:59] couple of sessions. Without domestic violence, then we got into domestic violence, the women were abused who came and talked about it, we had to set up the organization to deal with that. Not that we knew what the setting up, but we set up organizations to deal with it. And I believe all of my friends who has stepped out and helped us to set up organization, they all are feminist in their [00:07:24] heart. But how many of them could [00:07:26] have been challenged, coming out, they probably gone had a lot of a lot of domestic violence going on in their house, because all of a sudden their wives going out spending time [00:07:39] learning, driving, doing things telling their husband, this is not [00:07:43] right, this is wrong. But some of the marriages cope, some of the marriages did not cope. Because of the through the process, some of [00:07:52] them is made a personal sacrifice [00:07:57] to keep the organization and our vision go that other women [00:08:01] could get help. [00:08:03] But But then, do I look back and say because they didn't cut the [00:08:08] hair short, they're not feminist? No. [00:08:11] I think they are also feminist. And one of my [00:08:18] at least awake laughing. [00:08:22] One of my friends who, who founding member of check the [00:08:30] daughter join, [00:08:31] chat, his [00:08:32] newest venture, which is the new office in Melbourne. [00:08:37] And her daughter [00:08:38] just finished a degree in psychology, she joined the group, and this girl whom I saw, [00:08:45] have been working around [00:08:48] this size. And now she grown [00:08:50] up. And [00:08:52] she was sitting in a meeting and talking to the other women about feminism and how we should not stand we should stand against violence and shouldn't be polarizing violence. And when she finished I asked my friend is that morning that is happening [00:09:09] is that your daughter is stopping? She says [00:09:12] yes. [00:09:13] That's what we did. [00:09:15] Maybe I didn't change my outlook. But I made sure the CEO [00:09:21] and that's what is the mothers we can do. [00:09:25] The challenges [00:09:26] that we jointly face in New Zealand you know how when we came here we learned a lot about bicultural ism. [00:09:40] And I think [00:09:42] hundreds of meeting over the years I said there and [00:09:47] 1015 years ago was [00:09:49] not probably not better. I said that there is described by cultural discussion [00:09:54] then you sit there anything [00:09:58] my feet anywhere, nobody could see that I'm sitting here nobody could even think that I can contribute something even though my English is not public. [00:10:08] But I can also think [00:10:11] and then at some point you try to push yourself and contribute a little bit and then when the minute gets done [00:10:24] and if we don't for [00:10:26] very very long time [00:10:30] and is still probably going to go on because the acknowledgement of the other people which is other Lucy one of our founding member always gets really upset when you take things and you take other she [00:10:46] said [00:10:46] we always going to be other [00:10:49] than the other [00:10:51] and [00:10:52] other people problem will remain other people problem. If you seen that just last weekend there was a quite a lot of fun in the media with Dominion post and Michael Lloyd to the call the community man monkey monkey to go back to the monkey land. [00:11:11] The [00:11:13] den stash about all [00:11:14] prepared women, breakfast news to [00:11:16] defend organization [00:11:20] talking about another 16 years [00:11:22] how this issues going to be other people issues monkeys issues monkey should go back to monkey land. Unless people from here to stand up and you talk about it. Talk about institutional racism, which is more dangerous than you see a racist people on the road, who throw things to you who wants to beat you up [00:11:46] that at least you could see. At least you can feel it you can you can take a stick or do something about it. But [00:11:59] But what do you have to win? [00:12:02] To lie [00:12:02] he people tell you in your face and say I have so many letters. [00:12:08] Thank you there is no elevation and I have found for migrant in refugee community. [00:12:13] Why do you tell me for that? [00:12:16] I don't need a thank you. [00:12:18] You put instead of 20% just get lost, we have no money for you. That would have been much better way of explaining it, thank you there is no money for you. [00:12:33] Your problem doesn't exist because doesn't matter. Even the suicide rate is [00:12:39] after Maori the highest suicide rate rate in Auckland District Health Board 2007 [00:12:45] and eight it was [00:12:47] migrant young people [00:12:48] it doesn't matter even you dying in breast cancer because it's not detected because there is not enough female. [00:12:57] Female interpreters of service forced us to religion, [00:13:00] it doesn't matter if you get a job and get paid less. It doesn't matter. [00:13:05] If you work three times harder [00:13:07] than the white organization and [00:13:09] they can still put you down, [00:13:10] it doesn't matter. Because [00:13:14] you don't [00:13:14] exist. [00:13:16] You stay in the box of others. [00:13:19] Hey, then, then this this generation of mid 20s people, some of you will come out and challenges and some of you will try not to see it. [00:13:34] Because if you don't see it, [00:13:36] it's much nicer [00:13:42] then you can fit in as the banana. You can just sit in [00:13:49] my daughter works in the media. [00:13:51] I [00:13:53] I often tell my daughter don't turn up to the banana then your mother cannot take the talk. [00:14:03] Justice Brown. [00:14:06] Brown. My daughter tells me [00:14:09] Mom, there's two things if you see racism, you need to fight for it. If you don't see racism, and you know there is a racism, then you love to stand up much easier. I don't know if that theory works. But some young people might take that theory because they want to be fit into [00:14:27] basically white, [00:14:31] middle aged male, corporate, because you need to sit in to make money to [00:14:39] pay your bill. The other [00:14:40] children but moment is start seeing it. [00:14:46] Then you [00:14:46] get hurt you get angry, you get [00:14:49] frustrated, [00:14:50] and you need to do something about it. But I other maybe me I ever feel go down to that road because at least you changing something for the next demolition. [00:15:01] I don't know if I made a huge difference or not. But I tried [00:15:04] last 1516 years, every day make a little difference for my daughter and granddaughter. [00:15:12] And for everybody else. [00:15:14] I think that's what I'm going to do. If I live up to 19 I'll do it in the restaurant. [00:15:20] Thank you very much

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