Brendan Goudswaard profile

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So here we have Brendan is a community development worker for Whiting, gay welfare group, what's some stuff that you do in that role? I couldn't let Google School's out which is a support a social group for quiz. Two groups going one on one that was run weekly. And I also recently set up another quiz group for 18 to 25 year olds called g BLT sandwich. Because it's a great night. Yeah. And also looking at another group at and Pepsi. So, yes, and as schools that does it meet in schools or is it after school and out of school or school that meets once a week either in town or no had hit particular venues? Which are creating early career friendly venues? Yeah, after school hours, and you've had a long history of schools out Yes, yes. I used to go to schools at myself when I was in high school because school that started in my high school while I was at high school. And so I started attending as a youth and for quite a few years, and I've now come back and organizer of the school's out Yes, did you come You came out at high school? You went to Wellington high and that's when School's Out started. What was it like? coming out of high school was quite easy. I found that once I had come out as I didn't get as much harassment and bullying as because before I came out of school, a lot of people yelling their abusive and homophobic stuff towards me and hadn't had to deal with it. And then after I came out peeled my you know, try and bully me about it. Yeah, I am gay. So what? live in with nothing else to say. So most people pretty good about it at school now. Yeah, some of the odd or most people would like here with a guest from the first I've heard from so no one was particularly surprised. Yeah, and what about the teachers so what was you know, faculty and the teachers were generally really good. Some of them were really good at something at homophobia and getting out of the hole that's okay thing. Yes, it was really good credit. can do that and sorting that out. You would make a lot of young people who got a lot of different schools and Wellington How do other schools in Washington compared to why there's a Good Friday of different schools and interactions for you to come out of school. Some find some as how to fish but is that some of them but never come out of this? Yeah, some would come out and somebody to person for coming out. Really negative responses and someone get great responses and become a great role models, Nichols? Yes, his whole variety of reactions and responses to youth being out at school. And you do quite a lot of I guess, education and awareness. stuff in schools, if How does head go? out can be quite fun, can get some interesting questions. Christians, Christians are around relationships, and six and do all sorts of stuff about what it's like being gay and Nia, all sorts of various random things. Did you always know that you're gay? Um, I've always known that as a check to guys from a very young age. I wasn't until about 1213. I could actually put a name to it. Because I remember as a kid, I was writing, you know, 789 10 years old guys on two programs within their respective on what TV programs, things like Baywatch and man a man with it? Yes. Yeah. Part of the thing was to get the guys to help us at some point during the ballgame. My child has found really exciting. And when you came out at school, did you also come out at home? Um, yeah, there was something that, you know. Yes, I basically went to school, I came home, and also haven't ever heard about six months. And how did your family My family was? Overall was fully supportive? They didn't take a lot of it. You said? Yeah. And they weren't. Generally speaking, they weren't too surprised. It was a few variations on that. Generally there Okay. Do you think they struggled with that at all? I think they did for the first year or so. But over time, they've got news when? Yeah, it was really good. Was that very supportive? And talk about stuff with me? And what, how did they respond? Like, what did you actually say to the oven? Let's say my mother wasn't too surprised. One of my sewing class in high school, I met a rainbow top. And that was quite a big tip of my father was surprised. And the wizard knows a few minutes as a kid, but so click the light began. And he said that when he been trying for me, I was trying, they're trying for a girl and as well as gay. That was just one of the things. My brother he, he didn't say too much. It'll just like a sweet. So he didn't beat you up or anything? Well, here's an American this time. So yeah. He said, to bully you as a kid, who would you as much as any siblings to I suppose it was a bit of push himself between siblings. I remember one time I was about all day, I was trying to get myself enough man and kicking around across the room. So he came to you know, he was trying to get at me and I was on the beta across the room. And then the last time he tried to get at me. Yeah. So what else is schools that does it as a support group? Or is it a networking group, or it's a combination, it's both a support group for youth if they want support and stuff, and it's also good networking group so great for us, because it's a place where they can go and meet other people like them go through the some of the stuff and says the labels have been gaming queer and being abnormal and stuff just drop away. See, I get to be themselves and get to be known for more about who they are and what their skills are stuff rather than the fact that we're so these are kind of perception that, you know, everything's all sweetness. So hey, we've had all these law changes and kids, you know, young people are really, really accepting and fluid and little enemies. Also the perception of, you know, quick heads away to kill themselves and self harm and are really depressed all the time. I knew the stereotype is true. Anyway, I think they're both those ones are both sort of trees and some ways and LSA completely not true. And nothing's fine. And bit of a cataclysmic times, I think, particularly for a lot of teenagers. Do you think there is stuff that we face still today that make things I guess, more difficult than being straight? Or is it just normal? teenage? No, I think I think being being a creative manager. So this is a lot harder than being heterosexual teenager. I think it's a lot of hard stuff, Lego kits for advice and stuff. And challenges. Like, like, coming to Him, just his family, to friends, to their classmates and stuff. I mean, if you're straight, you never have to come and say, Hey, I'm straight, you know, you have to declare that or maybe if you're a Christian, your gender, you generally have to declare what the agenda is active on forums and stuff. And so if you're, you know, kind of I'm sure about your Tinder and stuff, you got to work out what your Tinder is, and you identify that and pronounce that. So you coming across quite a few young people who are gender ambiguous or pushing the gender and that every now and then they're probably I said, Kim says we're more underground and harder to find because there's such a big issue. And it's probably even scarier and hotter and hotter than just being gay or lesbian or just queer. So, yeah. And what? I've been hearing a new cartoon that people identify with a sexual thing. No, no, I can't even be under the banner. But I'm it School's out. It's it's one of the distributors. That's the escort. Yeah, I think we've taken under our umbrella under our wing. And we do have quite a few, three for us to do identify as a sexual and not be ganas. ektron might be passing from a sexual or whatever. And it's cool. And yeah, we even have a few stripe build schools as well. And that's fine, too. So we're, we're open, we're open group open to anyone. We don't discriminate. So you did schools at voluntarily for for many years, and you've just started being paid now? For what other community stuff you do I know that you do you do quite a bit? Yeah. Yes, I do. Yeah, schools that I also am part of the outline Committee, which organizes pad festival and out in the square. We've recently just had a, an exhibition, which went really well, and it's really successful. And also on the it is for Q. Team, what does it stand for? safety in schools for careers? And we've just got pink shirt. Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow? Yeah, tell me about things you do. Pink Shirt Day is conditions for diabetes, where it's anti bullying campaign. And it's not just something to cure, homophobia or anything, it's all pulling across all sorts, from gender to race, to size, to just anyone who doesn't fit into the ideal, I suppose, was a normal one, and he gets bullied in the race. And most people have been bullied at some point in their lives to this day to recognize yet to help fight, or to work against bullying. And so as always, community groups and high schools and private schools and preschools and stuff will wear pink shirts on Wednesday. So it's a school thing. It's not just a school thing. businesses get involved as well. And because pulling can happen and the workplaces as well, so it's everyone thing. And how did that set up the disease for you, starting in order, this is something you started the New Zealand hopping ship, a pink shirt itself began and Canada because a boy was being bullied for wearing a pink shirt, his mates Coursera, this sort of pretty stink. And that afternoon, they went down to the local shopping mall and got a whole lot of pink shirts and pink tops and stuff. And then the next day they hand them out at the gate, and to show support for the men who got played from a pink shirt. And Apollo's and never heard from again and the guy who was bullied. The victim was just blown away by how awesome now supportive they were. So yeah, that was a few years ago that happened. You've on those committees, and you also have an alter ego. Yeah, yeah. I also have an alter ego allocates my stage name, which I've been doing for seven years, so to communicate with her yet and do shows for all sorts of things and travel the country with that as well. Yeah, yes, I do a lot in the community. And how do you look at history of being a drag queen wars, it? Has that walling to me? That's, you know, I do get hassled for being a drag queen. Get a bit in Washington. I'd probably say smaller towns around the country. I get more, more. More of it. Do you think is jealousy? Yes, yes. It is totally jealous. jealousy. The guys that wish they get girls like it goes like me and girls were taking the girls like me. And girls wish they could get goes like being? I don't know. No, I think it's more just mother's fear of the unknown. And yeah, I think we could possibly be intimidating in some ways as well. Do you think that's because it's not clear that you're? I think yeah, I think because we do push the boundaries of Tinder. And what is Tinder and stuff? And I think, pilgrim, he sort of taken aback by that. And yeah, I can find it quite confronting. Do you experience homophobia is a gay man? And this is when you're not in drag? And I do a little bit. If I do. I don't really, I don't think I know. I think I get more than what I noticed. I don't think I noticed that so much anymore. I think because I've been getting bullying and harassment from such a young age. Justin, you have sort of grown a thick skin when you were little but much older. I think we were getting filling in respite from an awesome preschool. Wow. That's a really long time. I thought preschool was a 2020 odd years of being bullied and harassed. But yeah, and I think I think I just, I just can't ignore it and stuff and headphones, you just have you just keep walking in the door. That's it so much better. And I do get bullying and harassment. As a gay male. And direct mail situation will depend on how a deal that for me they're just kind of walking or making a comment back. That's fine. Comment. just completely throws them off. Yeah. So you do quite a lot of community work. Why? I feel for the money. Yeah. No, I I want the thing is I like to keep busy. Yeah, I like to live and enjoy life and try new things about I think the other part is I like to get involved. And do something it's important to involve the community, and qubit for it. And yeah, I like to do seven. Was it important for you? I think because I was being quite outgoing myself. And I was in quite out and proud of us. I know people who aren't quite out and proud. Something it's easy for me to get there and through the suffering community to maybe help those people who aren't that empowered to fill might help him feel more like smoke. So they're like a role model. Yeah. role model. Yeah, and I just really enjoy it. Did you feel like it was really supportive for you when you came out? As and did you know, it always existed? Oh, I didn't know that. There's so much comedic community stuff out there. But I definitely felt that once I got involved with it, I didn't have a great support network and go to meet other people. And I've got ready to get involved. And yeah, but queer family, basically, sometimes socialization, socializing, and that kind of thing as well. Yeah. Yeah. And what are the other ways that you socialize? If not just doing in the community? I guess going to other community events, which are made out of things like outtakes and looking forward to the big games, here watching next year, should be fun. Also just gonna have with mate, so we're going to the movies or not necessarily always going to just quit, but also going to just general public stuff as well. I always love theater and pass news time. And so I'd like to get to those things as well. So and what those always be the main ways that you'd meet people, what are they gay mean? What? I'm like, Yeah, I guess I came in that way. How was the three friends? Yeah. I haven't met Medals of maize and south for that way. Yeah. He made a partner or something, but nothing was said. So how would you say that as big sweeping question, as a gay man. And 2010. How do you feel that you're treated by others? I'm Kimberly Kim general interior lesson. For is a faded Philly. Well, Philly. Philly equally. Yeah. Maybe not. Complete equal in some places, but generally speaking pretty well. So the this, would you say is still a fair bit of homophobia in society? Yeah. What does it look like? Well, it is Dean, August, when you're in drag, or even when you're not in drag? Do you feel fear for your physical safety? Or is it other forms that homophobia take? So follow that phase for my physical safety? Sometimes it could possibly be martyrs work. How do you mean, I just send people not giving you jobs or you are not being able to advance as far as you might like to Jose, as you might be able to have you. Here sexual? Possibly. Yeah, or being having more. This it pushes to? Me? Yeah. It's hard to it's hard to say. I mean, I think he has a lot of I think it's a lot of people don't think about the if you're not queer, you're thinking about community and how a campaign or how a say workplace activity or something may come off as being very heterosexual hero driven. Expose. Huh? Yeah. So doing a whole bunch of community work, as well as being in you know, quite regular contact with young people who are requiring support coming out and all that kind of stuff. What was that you'd like to change will have society change will change in society? I think one thing we do would be good here would be the being able to get married. And somebody knows a good step. That's not Yeah. Not the same. Not the same. emerged as different. Yeah. So not quite in quality. I guess also things around adoption and other areas, we can change and you more also also this change agent stuff? Yeah, I think making things a bit more flexible law was or yellow wise and just an ass, you know, the forms and stuff or the toilets and stuff, they're very much the gender binary, and we get to better open a little bit more with either, you know, unisex up, toilet solar, or say having a so just having male and female having like, male, female and like other four and then be able to put in what you identify as, or as a scale option from male to female and put him on the line. Yeah, so some legal things and some practical things like that could change. What about attitudes? What do you think some attitudes could change? I think it's so me a lot of attitudes around sexuality and gender identity and still in 2017. And assumptions are made. So generally about being Yeah. Yeah. And, and jitter expression and stereotypes. Yeah. What did you some of your thoughts on stereotypes? Because I remember kind of coming across some, some was saying that, you know, that really came gay guys just propping up the stereotype. And, you know, the really bullies being is just putting out the stereotype. And it's growing, because I must admit I do to fit well, quite well into a case to talk. Not because I don't know if it's your choice. This is just who I am. And it's. But I also know, there's lots of people out there who don't fit into stereotypes and don't fit into the case, there's having the butch lesbian stereotype, and I don't think we should have to do near. We saw more about distance being able to express your gender, how you need to, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think this is such a race, racial stereotyping. Near as well. So what are your plans, great plans for the future. You continue doing, you continue doing schools out or community work or working with you. I think, the creative side of things, one of my ideals would be to have a drop in youth center where you could come 24 seven, if they needed, you know, if they're at night and continued work getting home or had been kicked out of home, or were just too out of it to make it or I just needed somebody to go have a nice, safe space. Yeah. And you have haldeman's here and have access to facilities and all sorts of stuff. One of my dreams, my ideas for me, yeah, I'm not sure continuously this work. continues my other patients what other patients costuming and fashions been one of my longest standing patients, I guess. Drag is another patient. Yeah, so I really enjoyed my life modeling. So too many? lots of lots of things on my plate. And do you see you see self leaving Wellington anytime soon? Because you grew up here today? I think up here I like the idea of possibly being overseas at some point, and particularly exploring Europe. Me Not sure. Why the time and see Ryan up. And if someone was to want to get in touch with schools out with either a parent or a young person, how, how would we find you will help you find schools out in in your other was it? LGBT is sandwiches? Yeah. govt sandwiches? Yes. For any of the groups have mentioned Google. Well, the easiest, the most direct way they can contact with me is through phone number, which is Oh 277639793 that purchase even soon as x 39793. You can also email me at queer underscore schools and school it or just try googling School's out. For the G BLT sandwich. You can define us through Facebook. Awesome. Yes, it's an open group. So anyone can join. Say hello. And how often do they they'll be meeting for nightly in town on a Friday evening. Nice way to wind down the week. Yes, thank you very much for having me on for with us. Thank you.

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